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The best way to bring countries into the fold of western civilization, to convince them to adopt our beliefs and values, is to engage with them in trade.

Exclusionary tactics have not had great results, historically.



I see your point, but practically speaking they can give tech company is money and still stop women from driving. It seems like they take the profits from trade and give it to terrorists, so we should probably brainstorm other solutions and not create dead ends with pseudo-platitudes


We've come from far, far worse. To suggest that global trade is a dead end is an absurdity -- founding the UN and fostering trade has brought enormous and unprecedented levels of progressive prosperity across the globe.

Dead end? Only if you're ignoring the last century of history.


West has been buying oil from ME for decades... That is a trade no?




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