Meta talk:Autopatrollers

I am a sysop on Punjabi Wikipedia. How can we have autopatrollers there ? --Satdeep Gill (talk) 05:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Asking either a local admin or on a local page (1 & 2) would be a good idea. :) Matiia (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

I think that he means the "autopatrollers" user group that doesn't exist on Punjabi Wikipedia. I think that Phabricator is the correct place to make such a thing possible, after a local concensus. --Stryn (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Oh, true. Matiia (talk) 14:17, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

For sindhi wikipedia AzChanna (talk) 13:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Autoptroler AzChanna (talk) 13:35, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

What? --Chealer (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

I am an autopatroller on Vietnamese Wikipedia but I help translate in Meta. Also I want to be an autopatroller to help translate to Vietnamese. Nhatminh01 (talk) 10:27, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

I am not considering nominating users for autopatrol after multiple warnings have been given to me, but out of curiosity, is that autopatrol should not be granted upon request? I've seen users nominating others for autopatrol on enwiki and commons, but not mata.. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Autopatrol serves a much different function on content wikis. Patrolling newly created articles or newly uploaded files which both serve a purpose for millions of readers is of course more important than patrolling pages on meta which are rarely read by anyone except community members.

Admins on meta can (and will) grant autopatrol to trusted users, e.g. when they see their edits in recent changes. That’s sufficient for the purpose of this wiki, the patrol feature isn’t used very much anyway on this project. --Johannnes89 (talk) 07:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Greetings Johannnes89,

In your latest revision’s edit summary, you argue that 'there's no such thing like a "pseudo-right"'. While autopatrol is indeed implemented as a "right" in MediaWiki jargon, properly speaking, it would in reality be more accurate to call it a permission modifier; it modifies the behavior of actions allowed by other permissions, such as edit.

By the way, the edit contained other regressions. In particular, while it is usual to use lowercase name as attributive nouns, we highlight that through a number of formatting styles in technical writing. --Chealer (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

There's so much wrong with your edits [1]: You've removed translate tags, Special:MyLanguage links, you've randomly marked stuff in bold and introduced other formatting styles which a contrary to the way the other meta permission pages are formatted, your text repeats itself unnecessarily and the sentence "They are called autopatrollers, yet are not called patrollers unless they also have the patrol right" is simply not necessary. And no it's still neither a "pseudo-right" nor "pseudo-permission". Please gain consensus before making such changes to a long-established description about metawiki permissions. Johannnes89 (talk) 16:30, 23 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Please wait until you cool before engaging in discussion. Which translate tags would I have removed? What I removed is not "Special:MyLanguage links"; it's the whole incorrect sentence about registered users. Which "stuff" would I have "randomly marked in bold"? If you think the corrected version introduces other inappropriate formatting styles, please explain which. If you think the text repeats itself unnecessarily, please show where. As for the sentence you quote, I think calling it "necessary" might be exaggerated, but what matters is that it is useful.

Please be constructive with your gripe about the term "pseudo-right"; just despising "pseudo-right" and "pseudo-permission" doesn’t provide any appropriate way to call it.

Regarding "gaining consensus", please familiarize yourself with our practices; nobody is expected to do that before making changes to documentation. Chealer (talk) 15:39, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

sigh...when do you ever accept to take responsibility for your actions, Chealer. //shb (t • c) 23:24, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply