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Now that the system is out and people have had time with it....

Time to speculate what games would be welcome additions.

  1. Which games currently on Switch 1 could do with an update/upgrade, etc.
  2. What new installments could we see?
  3. Which games not presently on Switch 1 or 2 would be a good fit? For both the hardware...and the audience.

There are a few games currently on Switch 1 that
I could see/would like to see get a facelift or at least a repackage.


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How do you make Ultimate...more Ultimate? Or...Ultimater? The Most Ultimate? Super Ultimate? Ultimate Deluxe?

You re-release it as a physical release with all prior content on the cart. That's right, none of this $70 for an 8-year-old BotW and then charging for an expansion pack. I know, given Nintendo's recent history, this seems unlikely. But repackaging Ultimate with all the DLC is a great way to convince those who have yet to adopt it to pick it up. In addition? I'd like to see some fresh new content in there. If they did that, then I would be comfortable paying $60 or even $70 for a deluxe version. If Nintendo did the same with Smash they did with Zelda BotW?

$60+$10 (upgrade) + $25 + $30 (for both fighter's passes)....You are looking at $125 to get everything in Smash Ultimate. (That's if Nintendo tries to price it in the same way they did Zelda). No, I think the better option is to repackage it with the upgrade for $70. That is offering the customer tangible value.

Moving on....

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Tank Mechanic Simulator is $18 but is currently on sale on e-shop for $1.99. One thing that has always hurt this game on Switch 1 is just how low res the textures are. Compared to PC at right. But given the price and deep discount? I don't think that the devs will feel particularly eager or in a hurry to update the game for Switch 2.

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Bayonetta 3 is a solid game but not without its issues. I have not tried to see if the performance is any better on Switch 2. But Bayonetta 3 at the time of it's release felt like it was constrained by the hardware of Switch 1. This would benefit from an upgrade in texture fidelity as well. (Many switch games would benefit from some kind of texture update). But given the state of Platinum studios? I have a sinking feeling that this may be the last we see of Bayonetta...which leads me to my next game...

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Astral Chain has always been a bit more stylized. But imagine what a proper upgrade could do for it? Again I am not exactly holding my breath considering Platinum Games have lost many of it's talented devs. Kamiya himself even departed.

NEW ENTRIES/SEQUELS, etc.

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Marvel on screen has sort of faltered lately. (Hopefully last steps rectify that). In gaming though? Marvel is having a bit of a resurgence. Capcom released MvC Collection. (And hopefully they bring MvC 3 Ultimate (on a cart mind you). Then you have Marvel Rivals doing well, and a new marvel beat em up coming. Plus a proper Marvel fighting game from the team at Arksys.

So I could see a brand new Ultimate Alliance that continues the cliffhanger left at the end of 3. Plus you have Avengers Doomsday on the horizon. 3 was an Infinity stone story. So presumably? A UA4 would kind of follow a Secret Invasion/Secret Wars kind of storyline. Some have speculated that the ending teases "Eternity" given the eyes. But some argue Eternity's eyes don't look like that. But the game says "Beyond eternity". So some speculate "The Beyonder." But those teases alone suggest a multiverse kind of story and both Eternity and Beyonder would kind of suggest a "Secret Wars" Story. And well...that's where the MCU is heading so...it makes sense. Marvel has used games and comics to further drive the films. And vice versa. So I think we do likely see a Ultimate Alliance 4. As for what I want? I want more unique trees for characters. Even if it means pruning some of the roster (though I would like to keep what's there). But I want maybe three skill trees for each character so that they can be made to play quite differently. Also a return of proper teamup attacks like in UA2.

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A new Astral Chain would be welcome I think.

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Not necessarily a port. But I'd like to see a new entry of Kid Icarus on Switch 2.

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Nintendo has the hardware now to finally deliver something truly memorable for Zelda. Again, I don't mean to dunk on BotW/TotK or people who liked them. But we saw the limitations those games had on Switch 1. I feel like if Nintendo could reign in the world size a bit, focus on temples and story instead of trying to create a "open world sandbox," they could deliver the kind of Zelda that a lot of people have wanted since that Spaceworld demo.

Games not presently on Switch 1 or 2 would be a good fit?
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Said it before, and I'll keep saying it. That this game is stuck on Wii and in Standard definition is criminal. We need an HD re-release of this. Sadly, Hironobu Sakaguchi seems to have little interest in revisiting it.

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This is a PC Cult classic. If you played it? You know why it's special. It's atmosphere is incredible. This game can be found cheaply on Steam/GOG. With Rise of the Elves it has 5 campaigns for each faction with 100's of hours.


Game is controlled largely by mouse clicks. Only a few instances where you need to input text which could be done with an on screen keyboard. Release Disciples 1, 2 and 3 as a compilation. Liberation is ok, but it's no Disciples 2. The problem with the Disciples series is that it's changed hands so many times. First from Strategy First, then to Akella.dat (disciples 3), and now Frima games (Disciples Liberation) and I believe is currently owned by Kalypso Media. There was a rumored DS port of Disciples at one point...

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And each installment from 3 onwards they got further and further away from Disciples II and it devolved into some cheap HoMM clone.


Im sure I could think of more. But that's where you come in. Share your picks.
 

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You re-release it as a physical release with all prior content on the cart. That's right, none of this $70 for an 8-year-old BotW and then charging for an expansion pack. I know, given Nintendo's recent history, this seems unlikely. But repackaging Ultimate with all the DLC is a great way to convince those who have yet to adopt it to pick it up. In addition? I'd like to see some fresh new content in there. If they did that, then I would be comfortable paying $60 or even $70 for a deluxe version. If Nintendo did the same with Smash they did with Zelda BotW?

$60+$10 (upgrade) + $25 + $30 (for both fighter's passes)....You are looking at $125 to get everything in Smash Ultimate. (That's if Nintendo tries to price it in the same way they did Zelda). No, I think the better option is to repackage it with the upgrade for $70. That is offering the customer tangible value.
So instead of anything about the game itself, you’re most excited about a pricing model that you say yourself is unlikely to happen? :^O

Anyway, for Smash Ultimate Switch 2 edition, my guess is that we see the presentation and performance boosts we’d expect, the return of “break the targets”, and perhaps another couple of modes, maybe even including a small campaign? The online experience would be improved as well.

Then as far as fighters go… well, can they ship a Switch 2 Edition with a reasonable amount of new fighters, and then still have a Fighter’s Pass 3 and perhaps even 4? Hard to say. I’m sure they’d want to do that and I’m not sure the returns would be diminishing.
 
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So instead of anything about the game itself, you’re most excited about a pricing model that you say yourself is unlikely to happen? :^O

Anyway, for Smash Ultimate Switch 2 edition, my guess is that we see the presentation and performance boosts we’d expect, the return of “break the targets”, and perhaps another couple of modes, maybe even including a small campaign? The online experience would be improved as well.

Then as far as fighters go… well, can they ship a Switch 2 Edition with a reasonable amount of new fighters, and then still have a Fighter’s Pass 3 and perhaps even 4? Hard to say. I’m sure they’d want to do that and I’m not sure the returns would be diminishing.
Maybe I wasn't clear? Its speculation.

It's what I would like to see. As opposed to what Nintendo is more likely to do given what they have done with BotW/TotK.

And if they do what you are suggesting which I wouldn't really have an issue with? The issue would be if they try to sell Smash Ultimate at $70 (that's including the $10 upgrade) and then they decide to sell the fighters pass 1 and 2 separately. That makes Smash Ultimate's price at that point $125 before you even talk about a fighters pass 3 or 4. If someone already owns that DLC? That's one thing. But I think we also have to look at bringing in new people that maybe didn't buy Smash on Switch 1.

Expedition 33 and MH Wilds or at least a portable MH like Rise
Expedition 33 would be nice to see.
 
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I had never heard of Disciples!

But I am a huge Heroes of Might and Magic fan. Disciples is pretty cheap on PC. On Steam there seems to be a lot of different versions of each game. Not sure what I am looking at, but I will so some research.
 

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And if they do what you are suggesting which I wouldn't really have an issue with? The issue would be if they try to sell Smash Ultimate at $70 (that's including the $10 upgrade) and then they decide to sell the fighters pass 1 and 2 separately. That makes Smash Ultimate's price at that point $125 before you even talk about a fighters pass 3 or 4. If someone already owns that DLC? That's one thing. But I think we also have to look at bringing in new people that maybe didn't buy Smash on Switch 1.
Game sold 2m copies last year. You’re talking about solving a problem they don’t have.
 

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Game sold 2m copies last year. You’re talking about solving a problem they don’t have.
2 million compared to the 30 odd million for Zelda. There are clearly a lot of people that have not picked the game up when you have a 150 million install base. For someone that ardently defends Nintendo charging $10 for a system demo? I'd think you'd be all for them making more money? And the way to pull the people in that didn't buy Smash is you...

"Make them an offer they can't refuse."

Smash has made it's money back already at this point. Bundle the DLC and fighters passes with the base game and they could sell it for $70 and I'm sure that they'd probably make some more sales and heck may even get people to double dip on an upgrade with all that content on the cart.

I had never heard of Disciples!

But I am a huge Heroes of Might and Magic fan. Disciples is pretty cheap on PC. On Steam there seems to be a lot of different versions of each game. Not sure what I am looking at, but I will so some research.
Yeah, there are a lot of different versions. But I'll point out the ones to check out...

Up first is...

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Sacred Lands is the first in the series. It's a little dated by today's standards in terms of visuals but it has it's charm and the story for the various factions is pretty engaging. I still recommend it with the caveat that it can require some tinkering to get running on a modern PC.

As one user posted...
Warning: this game is almost 20 years old.
The graphics and gameplay is similar to Heroes of Might & Magic 1 and 2.

This game could be easily fixed to work on Win10.
Go to go to \steamapps\common\Disciples Sacred Lands Gold\Exe\
1) Disciple.exe set in compatibility a resolution to 640x4802) edit DISCIPLE.ini file via notepad:code[Disciple]DDraw=0DSound=0ScrollSpeed=100

and in [Installation] and [InstallationClient] put your current installation path
(ex. C:\Program files\Steam\steamapps\common\Disciples Sacred Lands Gold)
Fix for Win7 64Bit... ("can't open fonts" / "Impossible d'initialiser Disciples")

Works fine on Win7 64Bit

Just go to the installed folder, go to the 'Exe' folder and look for the 'DISCIPLE.INI' file.
Open it with an editor and edit everything beneath '[Installation]' and '[InstallationClient]'.
Change every path from the default C:\programm files (x86) to the path were you installed the game.

You should be fine to go.
Cheers!
You can also launch the game in compatibility mode. It's a tweak that takes just a few minutes but I did get it working on Desktop. I haven't managed to get it running on Steam Deck, though.

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So Disciples II is where it starts to get confusing. The game originally released as Disciples II: Dark Prophecy in 2002. Then in 2003 the game received two expansions. Guardians of the LIght and Servants of the Dark. Each expansion offered two new campaigns. Mountain Clans and Empire for Guardians, and Legions and Undead for Servants of. the Dark. The game was then re-released with both expansions included as Disciples II: Gallean's Return. (Also compiled in the Strategy first fantasy 6 pack).
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I had originally played Disciples II via a demo disc in PC gamer. So when I saw this 6 pack? I had to pick it up. I think it was $30-$40 at the time? I paid $10 for Sacred Lands at Circuit City on the discount rack.

So the version on Steam for RotE doesn't say that it is Gold. They did re-release Disciples II RoTE as a "Gold" edition that had all the Disciples content. I can double check tonight. But if you go to GOG? They have Disciples II: Gold. But some have noted the GOG version may require some tinkering as well...(The post below is from 2017 so it's possible this has been fixed).
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Must be STICKY TREAD.

Gold Upgrade change main menu version number, but isnt patched game version (exe files in gog already 3.01).

GOG.com not always be a best versions of any games. Steam version of D2 (also old Amazon and SF-web site) have all content from all reteil release (exept Concept Art Multimedia Portfolio etc., all of them include ONLY in RETAIL D2 Gold + RotE Gold also). Best way -- buy Steam D2 Gold release, buy GOG version and copy to Steam 6 EXE files (3 for both games) and d2_gold_manual.pdf (previosly available as all Disciples manuals on SF files archive web site, now SF redirect to Steam Publisher Strategy First catalog).
Steam version packed in GCF-->VPK Valves archive in additional vpks ingame folder (with custom --non compatible with other games in MP -- 2.01\3.0 .exes + steamclient.dll DRM) -- must be extracted with Nem's Tools GCFScape utility.

Galleans Return 16 (+\-) aditional maps include only in GR in all releases. Must be copy to RotE, also with 12lvl heroes.

PS. One of 3 maps (2nd) from The Alliance Crusade can be playable as SKIRMISH map, but not be rebalanced and have scenario minor bugs for other races.

PS2. Both Elves campaing not direct follow GR plot. Maybe 2nd campaign is a prequel to 1st (you alliade with Empire and Clans).
So IMO? Steam's Gallean's Return and Rise of the Elves is the way to go. They are just a few bucks.

Then we get to Disciples III...

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And this is something that kind of pisses me off. Kalypso does this deliberately. Disciples III Gold gives you the base game and "Resurrection".

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Disciples III has a reworked version that includes Renaissance (the base game) and it's expansion "Resurrection" in a release titled..."Reincarnation"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/10270/Disciples_III_Reincarnation/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1287840/Disciples_Liberation?snr=1_7_15__13
And then there is "Liberation" which is sort of it's own thing. It is loosely set in the same world. But It's not really "Disciples". It's more Disciples in name only and was developed by Frima Studio. It's...ok. It reviewed well but many Disciples II fans feel the series has strayed too far from it's roots. If you are going to try to make the game more like HoM&M? At least do it well you know? Disciples III still from what I hear has many bugs. Liberation wanted to have "dark storytelling" But some of the choices feel like they don't really make sense.

It's a good example of a devs/publishers convincing themselves that a certain series is no longer popular. (Granted Disciples II was never really 'popular'). It was pretty niche, and it has a cult classic following. But in chasing mainstream trends they kind of made the series unrecognizable to the fans it did have. If you find them at a discount (as they are in the steam sale), it may be worth checking them out. You may find something you like. But IMO? Disciples Sacred Lands and Disciples II and it's expansions are what you should really check out. They are older titles and may require some tinkering. But it's nothing super difficult beyond editing a text file or changing a path. If you do decide to pick them up and need help; I can try to help you get them running.


IGN gave Liberation a 7. It's not that it's a "bad' game. Its units feel a bit too redundant and lack the variety found in Disciples II. The story kind of is a step down. It just doesn't really feel like Disciples. If you play 2 and then play Liberation or Disciples III, you may agree. But I think any of these could be ported to Switch 2 and take advantage of the mouse controls. D2 may have missed DS. But with Kalypso now owning the series? Who knows.


Hope this helps.
 

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2 million compared to the 30 odd million for Zelda. There are clearly a lot of people that have not picked the game up when you have a 150 million install base. For someone that ardently defends Nintendo charging $10 for a system demo? I'd think you'd be all for them making more money? And the way to pull the people in that didn't buy Smash is you...

"Make them an offer they can't refuse."

Smash has made it's money back already at this point. Bundle the DLC and fighters passes with the base game and they could sell it for $70 and I'm sure that they'd probably make some more sales and heck may even get people to double dip on an upgrade with all that content on the cart.
You're losing me here. Last year Smash sold just a hair over 2m copies. That put it as the #8 seller for the year, and the #5 evergreen. The only Zelda game that outsold it was EOW because it was its first year, and it cleared 4m copies. The only other Zelda game that ranked was TOTK which did 1.1. So no, no Zelda game, or collection of them sold 30m last year.

Smash doing 2m and ranking in as the 8th top seller in its 7th year on the market was fantastic. It outsold new titles like Brothership, LM2, and DKR HD. It wasn't far behind TTYD either.

Smash sells on its own, essentially automatically, without the need to be devalued in a bargain-basement sale, and brings in outstanding revenue. I don't really see a world where Nintendo effectively does a price drop/bundle and moves enough additional units to make up for the lost revenue, and of course make up for the lost value which you can't get back. They're saving those sorts of moves for the companies that keep laying people off.

Also I am pretty sure you have Smash? So I don't get why you care about this so much. Like, what does it do if it's bundled and you aren't even going to take advantage of the bundle again?
 

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You're losing me here. Last year Smash sold just a hair over 2m copies. That put it as the #8 seller for the year, and the #5 evergreen. The only Zelda game that outsold it was EOW because it was its first year, and it cleared 4m copies. The only other Zelda game that ranked was TOTK which did 1.1. So no, no Zelda game, or collection of them sold 30m last year.

Smash doing 2m and ranking in as the 8th top seller in its 7th year on the market was fantastic. It outsold new titles like Brothership, LM2, and DKR HD. It wasn't far behind TTYD either.

Smash sells on its own, essentially automatically, without the need to be devalued in a bargain-basement sale, and brings in outstanding revenue. I don't really see a world where Nintendo effectively does a price drop/bundle and moves enough additional units to make up for the lost revenue, and of course make up for the lost value which you can't get back. They're saving those sorts of moves for the companies that keep laying people off.

Also I am pretty sure you have Smash? So I don't get why you care about this so much. Like, what does it do if it's bundled and you aren't even going to take advantage of the bundle again?
Still would sell more if they offered greater value.

Yes, those are good numbers. The point is that none of these games should be stuck at this insane price point after 7-8 years on the market. Used to be. you had Nintendo Selects/Player's Choice.

Lost revenue? My guy? They already made their money back and then some. This is a company that has sold 150 million Switch systems and despite that they are talking about raising the price on 8 year old hardware in Canada (which already gets screwed over with pricing to begin with). Again, Nintendo used to discount games that sold 1 million. Zelda sold 30 million. I doubt Nintendo would lose revenue. Like I said, if they bundled the DLC, put the upgrade all on a single cart? There is value in that.

Yes, I have Smash. And...? Does that mean I can't be critical or want to see Nintendo offer a better value for other customers? Again bundling all that together at a lower price point would offer a good value proposition for people who HAVEN'T bought it.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate has sold over 36.24 million copies worldwide, making it the best-selling fighting game of all time and one of the top-selling titles on the Nintendo Switch.
It sold 36 million. The point is that it's out of 150 million, meaning there are still plenty of people who have not picked it up yet. You ask what does it do if it's bundled and I am not going to take advantage? You seem to have overlooked the fact that people may want ALL of that content...on cart. Rather than being just DLC. And if they threw in some extra stuff to sweeten the deal? Well...they probably could get people to double dip. Some people may not want to pay for NSO to get upgrades. So if they bundled all the DLC+the upgrade? That's a heck of a value for the player.

And I'm surprised you act as though Nintendo haven't done this very thing before. (With another title that has since sold gangbusters).

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At release, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe for the Nintendo Switch included new content compared to the original Wii U version, such as the expanded Battle Mode, new characters, and updated features like Smart Steering and 200cc Time Trials. The game also includes all previously released DLC from the Wii U version
So not only did they bundle all the prior DLC? They also added new characters like the Inklings, and new content like an expanded battle mode and 200cc time trials. And how many people do you think bought Deluxe even if they already had owned it on WiiU? Judging by the attach rate and numbers? I'd say plenty.

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Hyrule Warriors Definitive is another example.
Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition for Nintendo Switch includes all content and DLC from the original Wii U and 3DS versions, plus new costumes based on Breath of the Wild for Link and Zelda. It features 29 playable characters, all maps, and missions from both previous versions, and all previously released paid DLC. Additionally, it offers quality-of-life improvements, such as 3D models for My Fairy mode and the ability to purchase item cards
So I am not sure why the idea of Nintendo releasing some kind of Smash Ultimate definitive edition that bundles all the DLC while adding a few updates here or there is strange to you? Hell they did it for the Xenoblade titles.

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Both Xenoblade HD and Xenoblade X offer epilogue content.

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They did the same for 3D world offering a new bit of content bundled in to sweeten the deal. Sure Smash has sold a lot. But if they bundled all that content and added some new stuff? I could see people (even myself included) being willing to double dip. It's not like Bowser's Fury or this epilogue content probably took a ton of development or resources. Hell they could bring back Break the Targets just as one suggestion. They could do updated outfits. Bring back Link and Zelda's OoT outfits and different looks for Ganondorf. There's a lot they could do that would perhaps not require something as extensive as creating a new character from scratch (which according to Sakurai takes about a year.) But outfits/looks for various characters could be one thing. Take Bayonetta for example. What if they made her Bayonetta 3 appearance available?
 

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Still would sell more if they offered greater value.

I mean, you have no idea if it would have a noticeable impact on sales. The only entity with good enough data to know is probably Nintendo, who isn't doing it.

Yes, those are good numbers.

No. They are INSANELY GREAT. As said, Smash was the #8 selling 1st party Switch game of the year. Given its age and the number of games that have come out since, it's absolutely remarkable. It's not "good".

The point is that none of these games should be stuck at this insane price point after 7-8 years on the market.

It's not an insane price point first of all. It's regular retail price. As for why it shouldn't be that price still... why not? Nothing else has come since in the series that's better. I don't see what your argument is here, other than...

Used to be. you had Nintendo Selects/Player's Choice.

Used to be. Now you don't.

Lost revenue? My guy? They already made their money back and then some.

Cool. That's not how business works. It's not "recoup costs, then call it a day". They put a ton of effort into creating Smash, fronting all of the risk, so damn right they reap the reward.

This is a company that has sold 150 million Switch systems and despite that they are talking about raising the price on 8 year old hardware in Canada (which already gets screwed over with pricing to begin with). Again, Nintendo used to discount games that sold 1 million. Zelda sold 30 million. I doubt Nintendo would lose revenue.

This is where you really go off the rails. THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOSE REVENUE. Let's say they did make Smash a "Select" game, at even $30. Well, congratulations Nintendo, you just halved the revenue that that title will bring in. 2m *$60? Well, now they'd make 2m * $30. Unless of course, they sold an additional 2 million copies. Yes, that insanely great number from before. It's not exactly going out on a limb to think that that kind of sales pop is lunacy.

Like I said, if they bundled the DLC, put the upgrade all on a single cart? There is value in that.

In Nintendo's mind, and clearly the mind of 2 million people that don't work there, there's value in what there is now.

Yes, I have Smash. And...? Does that mean I can't be critical or want to see Nintendo offer a better value for other customers? Again bundling all that together at a lower price point would offer a good value proposition for people who HAVEN'T bought it.


It sold 36 million. The point is that it's out of 150 million, meaning there are still plenty of people who have not picked it up yet. You ask what does it do if it's bundled and I am not going to take advantage?

Dude. Nearly 1/4 of the hardware units sold have a copy of Smash to go along with it. That is an insane attach rate for where we're at in the console's lifecycle. And of course, there are games that have sold even more.

You seem to have overlooked the fact that people may want ALL of that content...on cart.

You seem to have overlooked that 2m people bought it last year.

Rather than being just DLC. And if they threw in some extra stuff to sweeten the deal? Well...they probably could get people to double dip. Some people may not want to pay for NSO to get upgrades. So if they bundled all the DLC+the upgrade? That's a heck of a value for the player.

And I'm surprised you act as though Nintendo haven't done this very thing before. (With another title that has since sold gangbusters).

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So not only did they bundle all the prior DLC? They also added new characters like the Inklings, and new content like an expanded battle mode and 200cc time trials. And how many people do you think bought Deluxe even if they already had owned it on WiiU? Judging by the attach rate and numbers? I'd say plenty.

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Hyrule Warriors Definitive is another example.

So I am not sure why the idea of Nintendo releasing some kind of Smash Ultimate definitive edition that bundles all the DLC while adding a few updates here or there is strange to you? Hell they did it for the Xenoblade titles.

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Both Xenoblade HD and Xenoblade X offer epilogue content.

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They did the same for 3D world offering a new bit of content bundled in to sweeten the deal. Sure Smash has sold a lot. But if they bundled all that content and added some new stuff? I could see people (even myself included) being willing to double dip. It's not like Bowser's Fury or this epilogue content probably took a ton of development or resources. Hell they could bring back Break the Targets just as one suggestion. They could do updated outfits. Bring back Link and Zelda's OoT outfits and different looks for Ganondorf. There's a lot they could do that would perhaps not require something as extensive as creating a new character from scratch (which according to Sakurai takes about a year.) But outfits/looks for various characters could be one thing. Take Bayonetta for example. What if they made her Bayonetta 3 appearance available?
OK, so you added a bunch of screenshots but not... one of BOTW/TOTK Switch 2 Edition, Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition, and Jamboree Switch 2 Edition. Because, that's what Nintendo seems to be doing, and it's probably what they are going to do for Smash.

One thing you seem to be skipping here is what about the 36m who already bought Ultimate? What are they supposed to do when Ultimate deluxe comes out, lol? The thing you and others keep flying off the handle about actually becomes a fantastic deal for Switch owners looking for a little more. They pay a small upgrade price and you've got the Switch 2 content. And they may have already purchased whatever DLC like 5 years ago, and they aren't insane people who spend hours and hours on the internet complaining about it.
 

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Ah I see we have the usual pink faced culprit attempting to derail a thread because they dislike an opinion the OP of the thread had.

Anyway, I like the ideas.

My additions are:

TEKKEN:

Personally I still think they should put a TEKKEN game on switch 1, my personal preference would be to have TEKKEN 1 2 3 + TAG remastered ( without touching the combat systems just visual ) with online support.
Unlikely but I still want it, but Switch 1 should still get TEKKEN 7 or better yet a slightly upgraded version of TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT: WII U SWITCH EDITION.
That could then lead into people buying TEKKEN 8 Complete Edition ( including all the DLC up to that point )
I'd hope theyd have the sense to put the entire game on a game card though.

Zelda classics HD remaster anthology:

This is one I was thinking about a bit earlier.
Perhaps to honour the 30th anniversary of zelda they could do something similar to the bundle on gamecibe. When I bought my gamecube it was the mario kart double dash bundle, but it wasn't till I got home that I realised it came with this cool extra, a zelda anthology disc that had I believe og zelda, zelda 2, links awakening, a slightly enhanced version of ocarina and majoras mask some trailers and a demo of wind waker. Even came with a manual ( but no box but who's complaining about a cool freebie?).

Anyway my idea would be to enhance the original classic zelda games, these being:

The legend of zelda
Zelda 2
A link to the past
Four swords

While you could include the game boy, game boy color and gba zelda's, I think if they do it more to my idea then we'd be lucky to get 1 game let alone 4 lol.

So, I'd like them to take each game, redo the classic assets to fit modern screens, but have a graphics switch button to see a remastered and perhaps reimagine version of the game.
I would like each game to have expanded content and perhaps even maps.
Do away with individual screens and have the camera freely follow you.
It should stay locked to top down in classic graphics but I think it would be fun in remastered mode to have camera control to look around 3D interpretations of the original games and could even be useful for discovering secrets and or new content entirely.
All of the games should have voice acting.
Zelda 2, I personally think could benefit the most from a full 3d mode, but I think that should be an option.
Four swords should include online play, but I'd also like a simple online mode included in all of the games, with repuees collected being shared and then sent back to your games, you could even have it so you can offer a bigger cut to those who might help you.

GTA VI.
I know its unlikely, but I still want them to do it.

GTA V, sure.

GTA IV, rumours of a remaster so would be cool.

Shenmue:

Personally I think they should release the remastered versions of the first 2 for switch with a Switch 2 upgrade patch/ edition.
Switch 2 should get Shenmue 3, perhaps including an exclusive sneak peak/ demo of Shenmue 4

Fire Emblem Awakening remastered:
Speaks for itself.

F Zero:
A new Fzero with online support

Starfox:
A new star fox which combines elements if adventures with assault and lylatt wars, include online coop and vs modes and you have a winner.

I have more, but that'll do for now.
 

e1622

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First and foremost, Nintendo to take off the kitty gloves and make some games that are actually hard and don’t insult the gamers abilities.

I can already tell that the bosses in donkey Kong bonanza are going to be a freaking breeze prob lol , hope I’m wrong.

The new Zelda needs to be a graphical show piece that’s ditches the cel shading
And goes for a more mature fantasy feel .

Zelda should have scary ass enemies, and environments .

OOT style put into next gen .

Classic green tunic link is back and the story revolves around the tri force.
And forgets the lame ass skyward sword, and totk lore .

A new F Zero

A New pure StarFox without the gimmicks of the last game .

A 2D Mario that’s as hard as Mario 1 and 3

Luigi’s mansion 4 😍

New 3D Kirby game that expands upon the last game !!

Factor 5 magically gets back together and makes a new rogue squadron exclusive for the switch 2🤣🤣
 

Wes68

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OK, so you added a bunch of screenshots but not... one of BOTW/TOTK Switch 2 Edition, Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition, and Jamboree Switch 2 Edition. Because, that's what Nintendo seems to be doing, and it's probably what they are going to do for Smash.

One thing you seem to be skipping here is what about the 36m who already bought Ultimate? What are they supposed to do when Ultimate deluxe comes out, lol? The thing you and others keep flying off the handle about actually becomes a fantastic deal for Switch owners looking for a little more. They pay a small upgrade price and you've got the Switch 2 content. And they may have already purchased whatever DLC like 5 years ago, and they aren't insane people who spend hours and hours on the internet complaining about it.
I thought I made it pretty clear in a previous post that is the exact reason I'd want a definitive edition. And yes I thought I also made that exact point in my previous post that Nintendo are selling it separately (AT FULL PRICE), which is what I don't want. Hence why this is a "Wishlist" or did that part escape you?

I also already addressed your 2nd point. That is the entire idea behind bundling all the DLC with the game, and maybe adding some new content to sweeten the deal and get the folks who already bought it to double dip which is the whole freaking reason I included those screenshots of the DLC for Mario Kart 8 which they bundled with Deluxe with updated content to sell it again. I'd think that someone who has defended a $10 system demo as much as you would want Nintendo to get even more money?

Ask yourself which makes more sense...Mr..."they would lose revenue"

Selling a $10 upgrade for a game 32 million already own? Or selling a repackaged version of said game with some additional content for $60-70? Common sense would dictate that $60-70 is more REVENUE generated from each sale versus a $10 'upgrade'. And that's $60-70 for potential newcomers as well as existing owners. I'd point to the fact that Cyberpunk 2077 was the best-selling third-party party and it included the DLC on the cart. People who value physical would gladly double-dip I think for a 'definitive' release. And if they wanted, they could sell that additional content/upgrade at $10-20 and have the best of both worlds.

And no, I would disagree...
  • They are charging you for an upgrade. Some games that have additional content they are charging $20 for a Switch 2 edition. Otherwise, they are essentially charging you for performance upgrades that should just be a part of buying the better hardware you just dropped $500 on. That's like charging a PC gamer or paywalling graphics options that they just bought a new GPU for.
And let's flip it the other way. Those 32 million own it on Switch 1. But maybe haven't bought a Switch 2. So your theoretical Switch 2 audience is much smaller than 32 million. What about the people who have Switch 1 but want that content but don't have a Switch 2? You just kick them to the curb? That's why they could repackage it as a Switch 1 release with the Switch 2 upgrade as an option. But they then could add content and all that DLC previously released.

And I might be a bit more 'favorable' if not for the fact that they cheaped out on the screen, which has a lower refresh rate than even the OG Switch 1. I am not kidding, but I was playing Xenoblade X last night and just rotating the camera had terrible ghosting to the point that yes, it is distracting. So, forgive me if I am not jumping for joy for being charged another $10 for 'upgrades' when the screen (on new $500 hardware) looks like it has vaseline smeared over it. And yes, I captured footage and can provide the receipts.

But at this point we will be going in a circle and you can consider this my last response on this to avoid further derailing the thread. So thanks for that.

Ah I see we have the usual pink faced culprit attempting to derail a thread because they dislike an opinion the OP of the thread had.

Anyway, I like the ideas.

My additions are:

TEKKEN:

Personally I still think they should put a TEKKEN game on switch 1, my personal preference would be to have TEKKEN 1 2 3 + TAG remastered ( without touching the combat systems just visual ) with online support.
Unlikely but I still want it, but Switch 1 should still get TEKKEN 7 or better yet a slightly upgraded version of TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT: WII U SWITCH EDITION.
That could then lead into people buying TEKKEN 8 Complete Edition ( including all the DLC up to that point )
I'd hope theyd have the sense to put the entire game on a game card though.

Zelda classics HD remaster anthology:

This is one I was thinking about a bit earlier.
Perhaps to honour the 30th anniversary of zelda they could do something similar to the bundle on gamecibe. When I bought my gamecube it was the mario kart double dash bundle, but it wasn't till I got home that I realised it came with this cool extra, a zelda anthology disc that had I believe og zelda, zelda 2, links awakening, a slightly enhanced version of ocarina and majoras mask some trailers and a demo of wind waker. Even came with a manual ( but no box but who's complaining about a cool freebie?).

Anyway my idea would be to enhance the original classic zelda games, these being:

The legend of zelda
Zelda 2
A link to the past
Four swords

While you could include the game boy, game boy color and gba zelda's, I think if they do it more to my idea then we'd be lucky to get 1 game let alone 4 lol.

So, I'd like them to take each game, redo the classic assets to fit modern screens, but have a graphics switch button to see a remastered and perhaps reimagine version of the game.
I would like each game to have expanded content and perhaps even maps.
Do away with individual screens and have the camera freely follow you.
It should stay locked to top down in classic graphics but I think it would be fun in remastered mode to have camera control to look around 3D interpretations of the original games and could even be useful for discovering secrets and or new content entirely.
All of the games should have voice acting.
Zelda 2, I personally think could benefit the most from a full 3d mode, but I think that should be an option.
Four swords should include online play, but I'd also like a simple online mode included in all of the games, with repuees collected being shared and then sent back to your games, you could even have it so you can offer a bigger cut to those who might help you.

GTA VI.
I know its unlikely, but I still want them to do it.

GTA V, sure.


GTA IV, rumours of a remaster so would be cool.

Shenmue:

Personally I think they should release the remastered versions of the first 2 for switch with a Switch 2 upgrade patch/ edition.
Switch 2 should get Shenmue 3, perhaps including an exclusive sneak peak/ demo of Shenmue 4

Fire Emblem Awakening remastered:
Speaks for itself.

F Zero:
A new Fzero with online support

Starfox:
A new star fox which combines elements if adventures with assault and lylatt wars, include online coop and vs modes and you have a winner.

I have more, but that'll do for now.
Like a lot of those.

The Oracle games I would like to see remade in Link's Awakening style. Combine them into a single release.
A Zelda Anthology would be nice like Mario 3D all-Stars. But I'd want them to put more effort into it than they did 3D all Stars. They could even do two volumes.
  • Volume 1: LoZ, LoZ 2, LoZ LttP, (the gameboy games)
  • Volume 2: OoT HD, MM HD, TP HD, WW HD, (DS titles)
We already had a HD re-release of Skyward Sword. But it would be nice if it were included. But Nintendo seems allergic to "compilations" as they would rather sell them piecemeal.

That's why I will continue to say that Konami, Capcom and Square have treated their legacy content better than Nintendo.
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As for GTA? I am honestly surprised we haven't seen GTAV yet. And if it does come to Switch 2? I have a feeling it will almost be too little too late.

Fire Emblem Awakening remastered could be interesting. Maybe a little too soon? Not sure. Engage didn't hook me sadly.

First and foremost, Nintendo to take off the kitty gloves and make some games that are actually hard and don’t insult the gamers abilities.

I can already tell that the bosses in donkey Kong bonanza are going to be a freaking breeze prob lol , hope I’m wrong.

The new Zelda needs to be a graphical show piece that’s ditches the cel shading
And goes for a more mature fantasy feel .

Zelda should have scary ass enemies, and environments .

OOT style put into next gen .

Classic green tunic link is back and the story revolves around the tri force.
And forgets the lame ass skyward sword, and totk lore .

A new F Zero

A New pure StarFox without the gimmicks of the last game .

A 2D Mario that’s as hard as Mario 1 and 3

Luigi’s mansion 4 😍

New 3D Kirby game that expands upon the last game !!

Factor 5 magically gets back together and makes a new rogue squadron exclusive for the switch 2🤣🤣
apparently DSP raged at Kirby calling it Dark souls. XD.

I don't mind cel shading. But considering the issues BotW/TotK had and that they needed new $500 hardware to even have a stable framerate makes me think if they want a showcase? They may have to reign in the size of the world which I would be ok with. Outside of Monolith I just don't think Nintendo can do open world very well.

I'd like to see a fully realized HD 4k remake of OoT. I don't get Aonuma's sudden disdain for it. It's crazy to me. Same with Yoshi P seeming to ignore the success of FF7 remake/Rebirth when they designed XVI.
 

bpapa2016

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I thought I made it pretty clear in a previous post that is the exact reason I'd want a definitive edition. And yes I thought I also made that exact point in my previous post that Nintendo are selling it separately (AT FULL PRICE), which is what I don't want. Hence why this is a "Wishlist" or did that part escape you?

I also already addressed your 2nd point. That is the entire idea behind bundling all the DLC with the game, and maybe adding some new content to sweeten the deal and get the folks who already bought it to double dip which is the whole freaking reason I included those screenshots of the DLC for Mario Kart 8 which they bundled with Deluxe with updated content to sell it again. I'd think that someone who has defended a $10 system demo as much as you would want Nintendo to get even more money?

Ask yourself which makes more sense...Mr..."they would lose revenue"

Selling a $10 upgrade for a game 32 million already own? Or selling a repackaged version of said game with some additional content for $60-70? Common sense would dictate that $60-70 is more REVENUE generated from each sale versus a $10 'upgrade'. And that's $60-70 for potential newcomers as well as existing owners. I'd point to the fact that Cyberpunk 2077 was the best-selling third-party party and it included the DLC on the cart. People who value physical would gladly double-dip I think for a 'definitive' release. And if they wanted, they could sell that additional content/upgrade at $10-20 and have the best of both worlds.

And no, I would disagree...
  • They are charging you for an upgrade. Some games that have additional content they are charging $20 for a Switch 2 edition. Otherwise, they are essentially charging you for performance upgrades that should just be a part of buying the better hardware you just dropped $500 on. That's like charging a PC gamer or paywalling graphics options that they just bought a new GPU for.
And let's flip it the other way. Those 32 million own it on Switch 1. But maybe haven't bought a Switch 2. So your theoretical Switch 2 audience is much smaller than 32 million. What about the people who have Switch 1 but want that content but don't have a Switch 2? You just kick them to the curb? That's why they could repackage it as a Switch 1 release with the Switch 2 upgrade as an option. But they then could add content and all that DLC previously released.

And I might be a bit more 'favorable' if not for the fact that they cheaped out on the screen, which has a lower refresh rate than even the OG Switch 1. I am not kidding, but I was playing Xenoblade X last night and just rotating the camera had terrible ghosting to the point that yes, it is distracting. So, forgive me if I am not jumping for joy for being charged another $10 for 'upgrades' when the screen (on new $500 hardware) looks like it has vaseline smeared over it. And yes, I captured footage and can provide the receipts.

But at this point we will be going in a circle and you can consider this my last response on this to avoid further derailing the thread. So thanks for that.
OK, so it's a Wishlist. So going back to my original comment... why is your wishlist around this about what it's priced at, lol? Like, maybe the modes, the fighters, the features... but instead, you want to fantasize about the price and how it's bundled? And not only that, but it's a rather unrealistic wish. We see what Nintendo is doing this generation with Switch 2 editions. Presumably, if that works out, that is what they'll continue on with. You bring up a number of examples of "Definitive Editions" but none of those were on systems that carried forth anything from the prior generation. So that's why your wish is so odd. They already have a nice way to upgrade your game where everybody wins, moving to a different model doesn't really make a lot sense. Seems like a waste of a "wish".

You also seem intent on Nintendo rocking a boat that doesn't need to be rocked. They sold TWO MILLION copies of a 7 year old game last year, it's insane given that they basically do nothing. Why in the world would they change that up? You keep talking about "more" and "others" but it's TWO MILLION. SEVEN YEAR OLD GAME. This would be like a baseball season where the General Manager of the team that has already clinched a playoff berth should release a bunch of players and bring in new ones. Doesn't make any sense.

And really with the strawmans. You're bringing up Welcome Tour again. You're latching on to the current controversy of the moment by talking about the screen. Seriously, just stick to one topic.

Later you're just going down a route that is unserious. You're complaining about Xenoblade X not running well on your Switch 2. Well, it hasn't been updated yet, so not sure what you're expecting. Meanwhile, you're then bitching about upgrade pricing when the reality is that only a few Switch games have paid upgrades for Switch 2, while the majority of them right now are completely free.
 

e1622

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OK, so it's a Wishlist. So going back to my original comment... why is your wishlist around this about what it's priced at, lol? Like, maybe the modes, the fighters, the features... but instead, you want to fantasize about the price and how it's bundled? And not only that, but it's a rather unrealistic wish. We see what Nintendo is doing this generation with Switch 2 editions. Presumably, if that works out, that is what they'll continue on with. You bring up a number of examples of "Definitive Editions" but none of those were on systems that carried forth anything from the prior generation. So that's why your wish is so odd. They already have a nice way to upgrade your game where everybody wins, moving to a different model doesn't really make a lot sense. Seems like a waste of a "wish".

You also seem intent on Nintendo rocking a boat that doesn't need to be rocked. They sold TWO MILLION copies of a 7 year old game last year, it's insane given that they basically do nothing. Why in the world would they change that up? You keep talking about "more" and "others" but it's TWO MILLION. SEVEN YEAR OLD GAME. This would be like a baseball season where the General Manager of the team that has already clinched a playoff berth should release a bunch of players and bring in new ones. Doesn't make any sense.

And really with the strawmans. You're bringing up Welcome Tour again. You're latching on to the current controversy of the moment by talking about the screen. Seriously, just stick to one topic.

Later you're just going down a route that is unserious. You're complaining about Xenoblade X not running well on your Switch 2. Well, it hasn't been updated yet, so not sure what you're expecting. Meanwhile, you're then bitching about upgrade pricing when the reality is that only a few Switch games have paid upgrades for Switch 2, while the majority of them right now are completely free.
It’s just his wish list, man why you freak out about it??
 

bpapa2016

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It’s just his wish list, man why you freak out about it??
Well it’s a discussion forum. If people post things they are at the risk of being DISCUSSED.

As for why these posts in particular receive so much attention it’s because they’re packed with hyperbole, strawmans, FUD, and misinformation.

In this particular case it’s just that the “wish” is kind of ridiculous. Nintendo seems intent on doing Switch 2 Editions for this kind of S -> S2 migration. Deluxe Editions have been a way to move content over from other platforms.

BOTW expansion pass wasn’t a part of the Switch 2 Edition. Boo hoo, time to get over it. Smash Ultimate which has a diverse array of paid upgrade offerings and perhaps a complicated licensee payout (even if no money is involved, many parties are), probably isn’t getting it either. Let’s not bitch about it endlessly, especially since Nintendo barely has a handful of Switch games like these two in the first place.
 

gronik

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Well it’s a discussion forum. If people post things they are at the risk of being DISCUSSED.

As for why these posts in particular receive so much attention it’s because they’re packed with hyperbole, strawmans, FUD, and misinformation.

In this particular case it’s just that the “wish” is kind of ridiculous. Nintendo seems intent on doing Switch 2 Editions for this kind of S -> S2 migration. Deluxe Editions have been a way to move content over from other platforms.

BOTW expansion pass wasn’t a part of the Switch 2 Edition. Boo hoo, time to get over it. Smash Ultimate which has a diverse array of paid upgrade offerings and perhaps a complicated licensee payout (even if no money is involved, many parties are), probably isn’t getting it either. Let’s not bitch about it endlessly, especially since Nintendo barely has a handful of Switch games like these two in the first place.
Reminds me of when you made your own switch list and then whined when pretty everyone gave theres.

It's a wishlist, not demands - there's no unrealistic wishes that's what makes it a wish...

The point of this thread is to give your own game wishes, not to derail it by focusing on one thing op said that you disagree with.
And somehow we are still no closer to knowing what your switch 2 game wishes are. You'll probably get the thread locked soon so well done /s
 

ViolentRain

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Ill be getting my bias out of the way first. Mortal Kombat 11 & 1 on Switch 1 didn't do great visually. A Switch 2 complete edition for both of them would really help establish a couple modern Mortal Kombat games for Switch 2, especially since we are probably years away from the next main release.


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Given Switch 2 is in the area of Xbox Series S, I would just remake MK1 & 11 for Switch 2.

Other games I'd like to see:

Call of Duty - which was absent from Switch. The last Nintendo CoD was Ghosts in 2013. Given Microsoft is in a deal with Nintendo, Call of Duty will show up eventually.

Skate - the series is going through a reboot and will be free to play. Im sure the devs will be able to do a Switch 2 version.

Bioshock sequel. A new one is needed. It's rumored to be in development for awhile. We just need to see it.

Pokemon Gen X that shows decent graphical standards for 2025. The games are in development. I just want them to really work on the open world, characters, etc.

Tekken - It just needs to appear on Switch 2

Life is Strange sequel - LiS Double Exposure didn't sell well, but they did make it clear that Max would return. I would like to see a continuation on that, while capturing the emotional story of the first games.

Destiny 2 - this one would be a challenge due to how vaste the game is. But graphically it should be fine on Switch 2. One big complete release.

Fable Trilogy remaster - now Im getting into pipe dreams. But with Microsoft sharing their games, a remaster of the original trilogy of Fable games released on Switch 2....I'd buy it.
 

gronik

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Ill be getting my bias out of the way first. Mortal Kombat 11 & 1 on Switch 1 didn't do great visually. A Switch 2 complete edition for both of them would really help establish a couple modern Mortal Kombat games for Switch 2, especially since we are probably years away from the next main release.


MK1-switch.jpg


Given Switch 2 is in the area of Xbox Series S, I would just remake MK1 & 11 for Switch 2.

Other games I'd like to see:

Call of Duty - which was absent from Switch. The last Nintendo CoD was Ghosts in 2013. Given Microsoft is in a deal with Nintendo, Call of Duty will show up eventually.

Skate - the series is going through a reboot and will be free to play. Im sure the devs will be able to do a Switch 2 version.

Bioshock sequel. A new one is needed. It's rumored to be in development for awhile. We just need to see it.

Pokemon Gen X that shows decent graphical standards for 2025. The games are in development. I just want them to really work on the open world, characters, etc.

Tekken - It just needs to appear on Switch 2

Life is Strange sequel - LiS Double Exposure didn't sell well, but they did make it clear that Max would return. I would like to see a continuation on that, while capturing the emotional story of the first games.

Destiny 2 - this one would be a challenge due to how vaste the game is. But graphically it should be fine on Switch 2. One big complete release.

Fable Trilogy remaster - now Im getting into pipe dreams. But with Microsoft sharing their games, a remaster of the original trilogy of Fable games released on Switch 2....I'd buy it.
i think they'll do fable, though they might opt for single releases, but a trilogy release (maybe even a full remake of 3 would be welcome though lol) would be good.

I think Rare Replay feels quite likely aswell.
 

kunalanand501

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Well it’s a discussion forum. If people post things they are at the risk of being DISCUSSED.

As for why these posts in particular receive so much attention it’s because they’re packed with hyperbole, strawmans, FUD, and misinformation.

In this particular case it’s just that the “wish” is kind of ridiculous. Nintendo seems intent on doing Switch 2 Editions for this kind of S -> S2 migration. Deluxe Editions have been a way to move content over from other platforms.

BOTW expansion pass wasn’t a part of the Switch 2 Edition. Boo hoo, time to get over it. Smash Ultimate which has a diverse array of paid upgrade offerings and perhaps a complicated licensee payout (even if no money is involved, many parties are), probably isn’t getting it either. Let’s not bitch about it endlessly, especially since Nintendo barely has a handful of Switch games like these two in the first place.

No one cares or thinks any of this is ridiculous. It is just YOU going around ruining every thread getting your panties in a bunch. If you have so much issues with people's WISH LIST, ignore and move on. No one cares what you think, no need to derail every single thread.
 

bpapa2016

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No one cares or thinks any of this is ridiculous. It is just YOU going around ruining every thread getting your panties in a bunch. If you have so much issues with people's WISH LIST, ignore and move on. No one cares what you think, no need to derail every single thread.
Nice try. I’m actually discussing things about the Nintendo Switch 2, and your post is all about me. You’re the one derailing. If you can’t handle actual discussion, put me on ignore.
 
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i will start by tackling number 3.



DEAD OR ALIVE 5 LAST ROUND COMPLETE COSTUME COLLECTION

MARIO KART ARCADE GP DX COURSE COMPILATION REMIX

DEVILS THIRD DEFINITIVE EDITION

MAXIMO GHOSTS TO GLORY HD

STREET FIGHTER EX 3 REMODELED EDITION

STREET FIGHTER 5 CHAMPION EDITION COMPLETE

MORTAL KOMBAT SHAOLIN MONKS HD

FZERO 99 ENHANCED COLLECTORS EDITION

FZERO X ENHANCED EDITION ONLINE

ECCO THE DOLPHIN DEFENDER OF THE FUTURE REMASTERED

THE LEGEND OF ZELDA A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS HD

NEW SUPER MARIO BROS 2 DELUXE

TUROK EVOLUTION REMASTERED

METROID PRIME HUNTERS REMASTERED

THE LAST STORY REMASTERED (as suggested)

KID ICARUS UPRISING REMASTERED (as suggested)

STAR WARS ROGUE SQUADRON 4 ROGUE LEADERS HD

THE KING OF FIGHTERS 14 COMPLETE EDITION

FINAL FIGHT 2 HD REMIX
 
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Current Switch 1 games that I'd like Switch 2 upgrades on:
  1. Metroid Prime Remastered
  2. Metroid Dread
  3. Pikmin 4
  4. Xenoblade Chronicles 1-4
  5. Dragon Quest XI
Current Switch 1 games that I'd like to see continuing on the Switch 2:
  1. Metroid Prime 2 Remastered
  2. Metroid Prime 3 Remastered
  3. Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages Remake
  4. Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons Remake
  5. Metroid 6
Games that are not on the Switch that I'd like to see on the Switch 2 and didn't fall on the previous categories:
  1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
  2. Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
  3. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
  4. Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 3D
  5. Yoshi's Woolly World
  6. Metroid: Samus Returns
  7. Kid Icarus Uprising
  8. Star Fox Zero
  9. Kirby & The Rainbow Curse
  10. Metroid: Other M
  11. Eternal Darkness (NSO)
  12. Star Fox Adventures (NSO)
  13. Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes (NSO)
  14. Luigi's Mansion (NSO)
  15. Super Smash Bros Melee (NSO)
If I was Nintendo I would have the last 15 non NSO games be multiplatform on both the Switch 1 and Switch 2. There's no reason for them to be Switch 2 exclusive, considering they're ports of older generation consoles.
 
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I want to see above all else something actually built from the ground up for Switch 2, not discarded Switch 1 left-over projects like what has arguably been seen with the releases of Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza next week on Switch 2.

If I had to pick two re-release titles i'd want to see on Switch 2, those would be:

Remaster/Remake
  • Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (one of the only mature exclusives to ever release on a Nintendo home console)

Nintendo Switch Online
  • Mother 3 (likely the most wanted Nintendo game to never see release outside of Japan of all time)
 

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Ill be getting my bias out of the way first. Mortal Kombat 11 & 1 on Switch 1 didn't do great visually. A Switch 2 complete edition for both of them would really help establish a couple modern Mortal Kombat games for Switch 2, especially since we are probably years away from the next main release.


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Given Switch 2 is in the area of Xbox Series S, I would just remake MK1 & 11 for Switch 2.

Other games I'd like to see:

Call of Duty - which was absent from Switch. The last Nintendo CoD was Ghosts in 2013. Given Microsoft is in a deal with Nintendo, Call of Duty will show up eventually.

Skate - the series is going through a reboot and will be free to play. Im sure the devs will be able to do a Switch 2 version.

Bioshock sequel. A new one is needed. It's rumored to be in development for awhile. We just need to see it.

Pokemon Gen X that shows decent graphical standards for 2025. The games are in development. I just want them to really work on the open world, characters, etc.

Tekken - It just needs to appear on Switch 2

Life is Strange sequel - LiS Double Exposure didn't sell well, but they did make it clear that Max would return. I would like to see a continuation on that, while capturing the emotional story of the first games.

Destiny 2 - this one would be a challenge due to how vaste the game is. But graphically it should be fine on Switch 2. One big complete release.

Fable Trilogy remaster - now Im getting into pipe dreams. But with Microsoft sharing their games, a remaster of the original trilogy of Fable games released on Switch 2....I'd buy it.
Man MK1 was so garish. It was like the Jurassic Park Meme. I mean other games had concessions made too like Witcher 3, but Mortal Kombat was one of those that felt like too much had to be sacrificed.

i will start by tackling number 3.



DEAD OR ALIVE 5 LAST ROUND COMPLETE COSTUME COLLECTION

MARIO KART ARCADE GP DX COURSE COMPILATION REMIX

DEVILS THIRD DEFINITIVE EDITION

MAXIMO GHOSTS TO GLORY HD

STREET FIGHTER EX 3 REMODELED EDITION

STREET FIGHTER 5 CHAMPION EDITION COMPLETE

MORTAL KOMBAT SHAOLIN MONKS HD

FZERO 99 ENHANCED COLLECTORS EDITION

FZERO X ENHANCED EDITION ONLINE

ECCO THE DOLPHIN DEFENDER OF THE FUTURE REMASTERED

THE LEGEND OF ZELDA A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS HD

NEW SUPER MARIO BROS 2 DELUXE

TUROK EVOLUTION REMASTERED

METROID PRIME HUNTERS REMASTERED

THE LAST STORY REMASTERED (as suggested)

KID ICARUS UPRISING REMASTERED (as suggested)

STAR WARS ROGUE SQUADRON 4 ROGUE LEADERS HD

THE KING OF FIGHTERS 14 COMPLETE EDITION

FINAL FIGHT 2 HD REMIX
I honestly don't know why Dead or Alive hasn't hit Switch in any form. DoA 5 is right there. DoA 6 would be preferable with all DLC and costumes.

Street Fighter 5 would be welcome but seeing as SFVI is there not sure how it would do. I wonder if it's Capcom that felt that the numbers were lower than their lowest estimations (due to game key cards) or if it was Square Enix. That has a Square Enix vibe to me.

Link Between Worlds would be neat. But they'd need to get the performance in a better place than Link's Awakening HD.

Hunters is ok. I feel where Hunters fell short was that they did a lot of recycling. I wouldn't mind an online-centric repurposing of the multiplayer.

Current Switch 1 games that I'd like Switch 2 upgrades on:
  1. Metroid Prime Remastered
  2. Metroid Dread
  3. Pikmin 4
  4. Xenoblade Chronicles 1-4
  5. Dragon Quest XI
Current Switch 1 games that I'd like to see continuing on the Switch 2:
  1. Metroid Prime 2 Remastered
  2. Metroid Prime 3 Remastered
  3. Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages Remake
  4. Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons Remake
  5. Metroid 6
Games that are not on the Switch that I'd like to see on the Switch 2 and didn't fall on the previous categories:
  1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
  2. Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
  3. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
  4. Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 3D
  5. Yoshi's Woolly World
  6. Metroid: Samus Returns
  7. Kid Icarus Uprising
  8. Star Fox Zero
  9. Kirby & The Rainbow Curse
  10. Metroid: Other M
  11. Eternal Darkness (NSO)
  12. Star Fox Adventures (NSO)
  13. Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes (NSO)
  14. Luigi's Mansion (NSO)
  15. Super Smash Bros Melee (NSO)
If I was Nintendo I would have the last 15 non NSO games be multiplatform on both the Switch 1 and Switch 2. There's no reason for them to be Switch 2 exclusive, considering they're ports of older generation consoles.
Wonder where the remasters of Prime 2 and 3 are myself. I still feel like that they may be shadow drops prior to Prime 4.

The oracle games are fantastic. I wouldn't mind remakes of each. Ideally I would like them bundled together.

Dread I feel like the upgrades would be more understated because Dread was already a great looking and great performing game. I imagine we'd largely be looking at a resolution boost.

Yes to all those 3D Zelda games and TP/WW HD.

Samus Returns is in need of a HD conversion.

Twin Snakes would be nice but is a bit of a bitch to emulate. So I feel like Nintendo will need to do some work on their emulation to get it in a decent state. And Melee would be great but I don't think Smash 64 is even on NSO? Not sure why. Maybe they feel it would detract from Smash Ultimate? Which is silly.

I want to see above all else something actually built from the ground up for Switch 2, not discarded Switch 1 left-over projects like what has arguably been seen with the releases of Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza next week on Switch 2.

If I had to pick two re-release titles i'd want to see on Switch 2, those would be:

Remaster/Remake
  • Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (one of the only mature exclusives to ever release on a Nintendo home console)

Nintendo Switch Online
  • Mother 3 (likely the most wanted Nintendo game to never see release outside of Japan of all time)
I feel like even Prime 4 is probably in that same camp as Mario Kart World, DK: Bananza. I feel Prime 4 was originally slated for Switch 1 and it is coming to Switch 1 too. But I don't think we have yet seen a title solely developed for Switch 2? (as in started development for and released on Switch 2 specifically). Pokemon legends Z-A is in that same camp as well. Same as Pokemon Champions. I think it may be some time before we see titles like that. NIntendo are not going to want to give up a 150 million install base yet.
 

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I feel like even Prime 4 is probably in that same camp as Mario Kart World, DK: Bananza. I feel Prime 4 was originally slated for Switch 1 and it is coming to Switch 1 too. But I don't think we have yet seen a title solely developed for Switch 2? (as in started development for and released on Switch 2 specifically). Pokemon legends Z-A is in that same camp as well. Same as Pokemon Champions. I think it may be some time before we see titles like that. NIntendo are not going to want to give up a 150 million install base yet.

It most certainly is. Just left it out because it was clearly obvious MP4 was a Switch 1 title having been announced originally back in 2017. It's a bit different to World and Bananza that only subsequent developer admissions from Nintendo close to launch revealed their Switch 1 origins.
 
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I honestly don't know why Dead or Alive hasn't hit Switch in any form. DoA 5 is right there. DoA 6 would be preferable with all DLC and costumes.

Street Fighter 5 would be welcome but seeing as SFVI is there not sure how it would do. I wonder if it's Capcom that felt that the numbers were lower than their lowest estimations (due to game key cards) or if it was Square Enix. That has a Square Enix vibe to me.

Link Between Worlds would be neat. But they'd need to get the performance in a better place than Link's Awakening HD.

Hunters is ok. I feel where Hunters fell short was that they did a lot of recycling. I wouldn't mind an online-centric repurposing of the multiplayer.





yeah, a complete edition of DOA6 would be great as well -- its hard to believe that DOA6 is over 6 years old -- but DOA5LR received an insane amount of wardrobe content while having none of that content incorporated into a physical release. tecmo is definitely missing an opportunity to expand the dead or alive fanbase by not having something to offer on a new and popular nintendo platform.


as for TLOZALBW, i would have no problem with a rebuild or an adaptation like what was done for TLOZLA1993, but what i want 1st and foremost is a simple 1080P conversion remaster that runs locked at 60FPS. i do not own a copy of the original game, so, for me, that would be an adequate substitute.


there probably will not be a great time within the next 10 years to release a SF5 conversion for a nonsony platform, but if it was marketed like a late ultimate edition for collectors, it would not distract much from the latest entry (whatever that happened to be).


i do not know much about MPH. i cannot even recall playing a demo to tell you the truth. i just know that MPH is the only metroid prime game (outside of MPFF of course) that is truly deficient visually. the other games are already gorgeous. retro made smart aesthetic decisions - enabling those other games to take on anything the future would throw at them. i would like to see a version of MPH that meets that same visual standard. any online feature additions or refinements would be welcome.
 
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yeah, a complete edition of DOA6 would be great as well -- its hard to believe that DOA6 is over 6 years old -- but DOA5LR received an insane amount of wardrobe content while having none of that content incorporated into a physical release. tecmo is definitely missing an opportunity to expand the dead or alive fanbase by not having something to offer on a new and popular nintendo platform.


as for TLOZALBW, i would have no problem with a rebuild or an adaptation like what was done for TLOZLA1993, but what i want 1st and foremost is a simple 1080P conversion remaster that runs locked at 60FPS. i do not own a copy of the original game, so, for me, that would be an adequate substitute.


there probably will not be a great time within the next 10 years to release a SF5 conversion for a nonsony platform, but if it was marketed like a late ultimate edition for collectors, it would not distract much from the latest entry (whatever that happened to be).


i do not know much about MPH. i cannot even recall playing a demo to tell you the truth. i just know that MPH is the only metroid prime game (outside of MPFF of course) that is truly deficient visually. the other games are already gorgeous. retro made smart aesthetic decisions - enabling those other games to take on anything the future would throw at them. i would like to see a version of MPH that meets that same visual standard. any online feature additions or refinements would be welcome.
all fair points. Also...we have SCII on Switch through NSO.

But where is SCVI?
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