Ahmed1000

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The complaints are more targeted at its repairabity than its functionality as a controller though.
The praise hasn't been about how easy it may or may not be to fix.
Ifixit specialise in repair so its not really clickbait
That's exactly my point.

not true, the d-pad still sucks.
It's waaay better than the original Pro.
 

bpapa2016

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iFixit reviews products from the perspective of repairability. In other words, who gives a shit.
 

hbguy311

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From what I've seen, it still does not have a prominent pivot point like the older d-pads, so you will end up with accidental direction presses. They dropped the ball here. again.
No they didn't. Nintendo is perfect. Leave Nintendo alone. You are just wrong and Nintendo is always right. The iFixit people are paid off by Sony and Microsoft. Doesn't matter if it doesn't have hall effect sticks and it doesn't matter what that iFixit video says because it's wrong. If Nintendo makes something, it's always perfect. Never ever question anything your overlord produces. Buy it and play it and know it's perfect every single time you fool.
 

gronik

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That's exactly my point.
your point was that its a clickbait, which it isn't.

Thread title: " Ifixit does not like the Switch 2 pro controller "

They don't like it, so how is that clickbait?

iFixit reviews products from the perspective of repairability. In other words, who gives a shit.
people that want to be able to... repair the controller... Which given the precedent set by Switch (1) that could be quite a number of people.
Regardless of analogue stick longevity (which is anyones guess right now) being able to replace the internal battery is something everyone should want. The fact you have to remove the face-plate (and then glue it back on xD) to get to the screws, and then completely dissemble the device just to replace the battery... is crap.

No they didn't. Nintendo is perfect. Leave Nintendo alone. You are just wrong and Nintendo is always right. The iFixit people are paid off by Sony and Microsoft. Doesn't matter if it doesn't have hall effect sticks and it doesn't matter what that iFixit video says because it's wrong. If Nintendo makes something, it's always perfect. Never ever question anything your overlord produces. Buy it and play it and know it's perfect every single time you fool.

 
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hbguy311

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your point was that its a clickbait, which it isn't.

Thread title: " Ifixit does not like the Switch 2 pro controller "

They don't like it, so how is that clickbait?
Because it's being negative about a Nintendo product. Remember, plenty of people here work for Nintendo and their fathers fathers fathers worked for Nintendo. In their minds, Nintendo is absolutely perfect.
 

gronik

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Because it's being negative about a Nintendo product. Remember, plenty of people here work for Nintendo and their fathers fathers fathers worked for Nintendo. In their minds, Nintendo is absolutely perfect.
shiz here i was believing everyone here were completely level-headed, straight shooting totally not irrational fanboys /s

Guess anyone complaining should probably sent to Guantanamo without chance for parole, why should you expect better just because your paying more than you used to? Its just entitlement... /s
 

Ahmed1000

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your point was that its a clickbait, which it isn't.
But it clearly is. Read the article. Calling it "piss poor" and a "cash grab" is the definition of clickbait.

Same goes for OP...like the majority of his threads...you're just choosing not see it or like to tag along.

Even funnier is the majority of ppl responding to this thread dont even own a Switch 2, let alone a Pro 2 lol.

From what I've seen, it still does not have a prominent pivot point like the older d-pads, so you will end up with accidental direction presses. They dropped the ball here. again.
From what I've actually experienced, you know because I own one, it's not perfect but still a major improvement over the OG Pro.

I even use it when I play SF6, which is saying something.
 

gronik

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But it clearly is. Read the article. Calling it "piss poor" and a "cash grab" is the definition of clickbait.
if its more expensive than the previous controller and its harder to fix, then saying its "piss poor" and "cash grab" seems to be fairly inline with what you would expect from a ... repair based site.
Same goes for OP...like the majority of his threads...you're just choosing not see it or like to tag along.
i take what someone says on a case by case basis. I don't care about negativity in this regard, this is more a case of "is this click bait" or not, and i would say, given the facts, its not.
Plus, OP puts up loads of threads across multiple boards. I'm looking at just the first page, and OP has several threads. Theres one for a rumour of a Mario Galaxy remaster (is that negative?), theres another for Switch 2 direct near its launch(more negativity i guess), theres another for Switch 2 review thread(even more negativity right???), theres this one (obviously pure negativity), theres another for Nintendo discontinuing gold coins (totally negative pointing out a... fact), and theres another saying how virtous said its comparable to Xbox Series S (outright negativity, they should say its better than Xbox Series X not just as good as Series S)
. Now you can say this thread is negative if you want, but its literally just saying what ifixit have said themselves. Saying OP only puts up negative/clickbait, i mean, i guess your seeing what you want to see, because you've marked OP as being just negative and mean about Switch 2. shrugs.
If anyone is choosing to see something or not, it appears to be you, seemingly because you have some chip on your shoulder because of OP making too many "negative" (largely your opinion) threads.
Even funnier is the majority of ppl responding to this thread dont even own a Switch 2, let alone a Pro 2 lol.
? I don't have any opinion on the controller.
I haven't said its piss poor, i haven't said its crap. I haven't even said i personally think its hard to fix, that is what ifixit are reporting.
So because i don't own a Switch 2, i'm not allowed to say "its not clickbait" ?
Yeah, that makes sense /s
 
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fenixazul

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From what I've actually experienced, you know because I own one, it's not perfect but still a major improvement over the OG Pro.

I even use it when I play SF6, which is saying something.
A yes, SF6. Personally no problem in playing in handheld mode but I really dislike the art direction. SF4 art direction was my favorite
 

Ahmed1000

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if its more expensive than the previous controller and its harder to fix, then saying its "piss poor" and "cash grab" seems to be fairly inline with what you would expect from a ... repair based site.

i take what someone says on a case by case basis. I don't care about negativity in this regard, this is more a case of "is this click bait" or not, and i would say, given the facts, its not.
Plus, OP puts up loads of threads across multiple boards. I'm looking at just the first page, and OP has several threads. Theres one for a rumour of a Mario Galaxy remaster (is that negative?), theres another for Switch 2 direct near its launch(more negativity i guess), theres another for Switch 2 review thread(even more negativity right???), theres this one (obviously pure negativity), theres another for Nintendo discontinuing gold coins (totally negative pointing out a... fact), and theres another saying how virtous said its comparable to Xbox Series S (outright negativity, they should say its better than Xbox Series X not just as good as Series S)
. Now you can say this thread is negative if you want, but its literally just saying what ifixit have said themselves. Saying OP only puts up negative/clickbait, i mean, i guess your seeing what you want to see, because you've marked OP as being just negative and mean about Switch 2. shrugs.
If anyone is choosing to see something or not, it appears to be you, seemingly because you have some chip on your shoulder because of OP making too many "negative" (largely your opinion) threads.

? I don't have any opinion on the controller.
I haven't said its piss poor, i haven't said its crap. I haven't even said i personally think its hard to fix, that is what ifixit are reporting.
So because i don't own a Switch 2, i'm not allowed to say "its not clickbait" ?
Yeah, that makes sense /s
You're right, I must be crazy. Not sure why I even bothered.
 

hbguy311

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So for some reason facts equals being negative now. Like it's already been stated, I don't post only negative threads. I also own a Switch 2 so clearly that was not referring to me. I don't have a pro controller 2 yet seeing as I have already bought three regular pro controllers and I just bought an overpriced S2 so I'm good for now. The iFixit article is just showing how Nintendo should be doing better with their brand new $85 controller. Heaven forbid ifixit points out facts. The iFixit people know more than all of us on the boards so I guess there's some jealousy there and people feel the need to lash out.
 
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i am not impressed with the NS2 pro controller myself. the back button placement seems as horrible as it is typically. i have not actually tried 1 though. i bought a NS1 PC controller with hall effect sticks for 30USD instead. it is like a hybrid of nintendo and microsoft designs in terms of layout and shape, and it features light rings surrounding the stick grooves and possibly the most powerful rumble of any controller that i have held. it is not from a major brand - i believe it is etch gaming or something - but its build quality is quite nice. if it is still functioning well in 3 or 4 months, i can grab 2 more for less than the cost of a NS2 pro controller.
 

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i am not impressed with the NS2 pro controller myself. the back button placement seems as horrible as it is typically. i have not actually tried 1 though. i bought a NS1 PC controller with hall effect sticks for 30USD instead. it is like a hybrid of nintendo and microsoft designs in terms of layout and shape, and it features light rings surrounding the stick grooves and possibly the most powerful rumble of any controller that i have held. it is not from a major brand - i believe it is etch gaming or something - but its build quality is quite nice. if it is still functioning well in 3 or 4 months, i can grab 2 more for less than the cost of a NS2 pro controller.

It is impossible to read what you post based on the font color you have selected.
 

gmcube

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oh, come on. its very similar to whats used for usernames and its great in dark mode. you on PC or smartphone?
Usernames are way darker giving us that much needed contrast, yours is close is value to the background, especially those of us who choose the classic board style (grey). People have been trying to tell you this for a while now, but you keep using it because you want to be special.
 
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Usernames are way darker giving us that much needed contrast, yours is close is value to the background, especially those of us who choose the classic board style (grey). People have been trying to tell you this for a while now, but you keep using it because you want to be special.


aah, cool assumption bro. it is hilariously off the mark though. the purpose is not to be special. the purpose is simply to allow me to quicky and easily identify my own posts while scrolling through a page. it has nothing to do with anyone else, but i aim to choose something readable.


people havent been telling me anything for a while. i started using the pale red color only a few months ago. why on earth are you using classic style to begin with? i see that the color looks odd against that ugly grey backdrop. accommodating 3 styles is not that simple though. darker colors do not work well with dark style.
 
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ThesufferingDamian

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aah, cool assumption bro. it is hilariously off the mark though. the purpose is not to be special. the purpose is for me to be able to quicky and easily identify my own posts while scrolling through a page. it has nothing to do with anyone else, but i aim to choose something readable.


people havent been telling me anything for a while. i started using the pale red color only a few months ago. why on earth are you using classic style to begin with? i see that the color looks odd against that ugly grey backdrop. accommodating 3 styles is not that simple though. darker colors do not work well with dark style.
Why red tho? Try purple or something, a color closer to black?
 

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Overall, it to me looks like they basically took those Power A controllers that they released for Switch 1 and made them actually official with the Original Switch Pro faceplates.

I agree with the sentiment that it is not much better than the original Switch Pro Controller with all its issues, (the D-pad really sucks) but for $20 more is a major problem. I also feel that repair/replacement issues are important and the more we find out about potential failures or faults of the Switch 2, the more these are going to matter in the future, especially for early adopters who may be out of their warranty time frame of a year. So again, I don't see what the big deal is relaying this information. It is good to be aware of any potential failures moving forward especially at a $600 investment of console and pro controller.

It is nice that peripherals are too backwards compatible because I definitely don't plan on buying a Switch 2 Pro when it is basically the same thing as an original Pro and if I really want those back buttons (which I don't and is the main reason I never bought the Power A wireless models.) I will just buy a Power A Pro at Walmart for $50. Personally, I find it sad that after 6 years of owning a Switch, the best controller for it is a WiiU Pro Controller connected via an 8-Bitdo connector as the D-pad actually works and the buttons are more responsive. If only the rumble would work but that's the caveat of the HD Rumble...
 

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It was shitting all over it though
because their a repair site and its apparently hard to repair. Are they suppose to lie? "This controller is hard to repair, getting into it is a challenge and requires removing the faceplate (which has to be glued back on) just to get to the screws... this is a fantastic controller top quality :D"
 

hbguy311

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oh, come on. its very similar to whats used for usernames and its great in dark mode. you on PC or smartphone?
I can read it just find on laptop and phone.

Here's another article about the Pro 2
 
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gmcube

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why on earth are you using classic style to begin with? i see that the color looks odd against that ugly grey backdrop. accommodating 3 styles is not that simple though. darker colors do not work well with dark style.
This grey isn't really dark, its darker, yes, but its not even 50% grey, it still leans closer to white than it does black. but I digress. As for why I chose it, two reasons, nostalgia for the ign boards in their prime, and also just because it makes sense, white is blindingly bright, hard on the eyes. Anytime you are looking at a screen showing you white is gonna be hard to look at for any extended period of time, so a grey is much easier to look at.
 

e1622

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aah, cool assumption bro. it is hilariously off the mark though. the purpose is not to be special. the purpose is simply to allow me to quicky and easily identify my own posts while scrolling through a page. it has nothing to do with anyone else, but i aim to choose something readable.


people havent been telling me anything for a while. i started using the pale red color only a few months ago. why on earth are you using classic style to begin with? i see that the color looks odd against that ugly grey backdrop. accommodating 3 styles is not that simple though. darker colors do not work well with dark style.
You need to use a dark crimson red if you’re gonna use red lol.
 

gmcube

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dark red on its own doesnt work well. it needs some thickness.
What doesn't work well about this? At least its legible on both white and grey. These background colors are neutral anyway, any color works so long as it provides enough contrast in value.
 
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What doesn't work well about this? At least its legible on both white and grey. These background colors are neutral anyway, any color works so long as it provides enough contrast in value.


that is barely readable in dark mode on my phone. like i said earlier, universal compatibility is complicated.
 

gencid

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The Switch 2 Pro controller feels better than any other Nintendo made controller. I would hope that the reliability and quality control would match the form factor and price point. My favorite controllers are still the Xbox Series controllers, but the workmanship quality on them is utter crap. At least I don't have to spend over $50 for the basic Xbox controller, so that's that.
 

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So for some reason facts equals being negative now. Like it's already been stated, I don't post only negative threads. I also own a Switch 2 so clearly that was not referring to me. I don't have a pro controller 2 yet seeing as I have already bought three regular pro controllers and I just bought an overpriced S2 so I'm good for now. The iFixit article is just showing how Nintendo should be doing better with their brand new $85 controller. Heaven forbid ifixit points out facts. The iFixit people know more than all of us on the boards so I guess there's some jealousy there and people feel the need to lash out.

When he talks about your negativity it is because you went on a spurt for several months where all you did was shit on Switch 2 to an unhealthy degree ad nauseam. For the most part you seem to have moved beyond that for the most part, but anytime a discussion about Switch 2 comes up you are very quick to pull out the, "Nintendo can do no wrong" line, no matter who you are talking to which is disingenuous. You used it on me and I have given Nintendo absolute hell on these boards about many topics.

because their a repair site and its apparently hard to repair. Are they suppose to lie? "This controller is hard to repair, getting into it is a challenge and requires removing the faceplate (which has to be glued back on) just to get to the screws... this is a fantastic controller top quality :D"

While I get that they are a repair site. Calling it a cash grab is click bait and disingenuous. Yes from a repair point it is sub par, but how many people get or need repairs on their pro controllers? Very few. A cash grab implies that you are being scammed into spending money on something that isn't worth the value and won't hold up. So unless there is evidence that the pro controllers are breaking at abnormally high rates, that phrasing is designed to get clicks which frankly, is to be expected. Most media companies create click bait titles for most things. Clicks are how they get money. To pretend that they aren't trying to make money with their articles is silly. It is rare to see articles that don't have click baity titles these days.
 

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I like the controller a lot. It feels great in my hand and I personally don’t have an issue with the d-pad. It’s obviously going to come down to preference when it comes to a controller though. There’s really no right or wrong opinion about them. Except for the Switch 1 joy controller though, those things sucks. Lol 😝
 

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When he talks about your negativity it is because you went on a spurt for several months where all you did was shit on Switch 2 to an unhealthy degree ad nauseam. For the most part you seem to have moved beyond that for the most part, but anytime a discussion about Switch 2 comes up you are very quick to pull out the, "Nintendo can do no wrong" line, no matter who you are talking to which is disingenuous. You used it on me and I have given Nintendo absolute hell on these boards about many topics.



While I get that they are a repair site. Calling it a cash grab is click bait and disingenuous. Yes from a repair point it is sub par, but how many people get or need repairs on their pro controllers? Very few. A cash grab implies that you are being scammed into spending money on something that isn't worth the value and won't hold up. So unless there is evidence that the pro controllers are breaking at abnormally high rates, that phrasing is designed to get clicks which frankly, is to be expected. Most media companies create click bait titles for most things. Clicks are how they get money. To pretend that they aren't trying to make money with their articles is silly. It is rare to see articles that don't have click baity titles these days.
I posted facts. I have already gone over this. All of my posts have been facts. Again, what you call me trash talking switch 2 is just posting facts. You don't like the facts about negatives of switch 2 so you view it differently for some reason. Another example is donkey Kong Bonanza. The developers have come out and stated as an absolute fact that they don't care that the frame rate is going to dip. They know it's there and they don't care. Now you are going to view that as negative when it's just a fact. That's a personal issue you are going to have to deal with.
 

jman1115

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I posted facts. I have already gone over this. All of my posts have been facts. Again, what you call me trash talking switch 2 is just posting facts. You don't like the facts about negatives of switch 2 so you view it differently for some reason. Another example is donkey Kong Bonanza. The developers have come out and stated as an absolute fact that they don't care that the frame rate is going to dip. They know it's there and they don't care. Now you are going to view that as negative when it's just a fact. That's a personal issue you are going to have to deal with.
The stuff I am talking about were not facts. They were your opinions about how Switch 2 won't do well because of the price point and you were getting mad at people for being excited about it.

I have not argued about whether or not there will be frame rate dips. I have not claimed posting an article about DK and framerate dips is negative. You know exactly what I am talking about when I state this. You absolutely were doom scrolling for every negative Switch 2 article you could for a while trying to prove to people that Switch 2 was trash. Now you have a more balanced article distribution but for a while it was 100% your mission to show people that they shouldn't be hyped for Switch 2.

You pull the "Nintendo can do no wrong card" all the time lately, meanwhile you were simply the other side of that coin. Not any better.

I love and hate Nintendo all at the same time. There are absolutely things to complain about, be concerned about etc. My biggest frustrations being with online play and eshop, but there is also a lot of good. Balance is important.

Should we be concerned about the possibility of frame rate dips? Sure. Something to keep an eye on. I trust that if the majority of reviews don't find it to be a big deal, then the dips that may be there are not worth being concerned about. Its a 20 hour game, if it dips for a few seconds a dozen times over the course of 20 hours, Im not concerned unless those dips are causing unnecessary difficulties. I always wait and see with that stuff, and so far, its looking pretty good. Definitely gonna give it some time though to see what comes through after the initial hype has died down a bit.
 
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hbguy311

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The stuff I am talking about were not facts. They were your opinions about how Switch 2 won't do well because of the price point and you were getting mad at people for being excited about it.

I have not argued about whether or not there will be frame rate dips. I have not claimed posting an article about DK and framerate dips is negative. You know exactly what I am talking about when I state this. You absolutely were doom scrolling for every negative Switch 2 article you could for a while trying to prove to people that Switch 2 was trash. Now you have a more balanced article distribution but for a while it was 100% your mission to show people that they shouldn't be hyped for Switch 2.

You pull the "Nintendo can do no wrong card" all the time lately, meanwhile you were simply the other side of that coin. Not any better.

I love and hate Nintendo all at the same time. There are absolutely things to complain about, be concerned about etc. There is also a lot of good. Balance is important.
Rumors have the system costing $338 USD for Nintendo to make. That means it's absolutely overpriced. Nintendo was making about $38 or so on each switch one sold. They are blowing that profit out of the water now with their new system. I do still maintain that it's overpriced and it won't sell nearly as well as switch one without a price drop. Show me one post where I told people they were wrong for being hyped about switch 2? I'll save you time because I never posted that.

Also, again, your definition of negative is simply me pointing out other people's opinions. You were sitting there acting like every single person was praising the Nintendo switch 2 and it was the greatest thing ever made and I simply showed you that you were wrong and that plenty of other people had different opinions. For some reason, you are calling someone else's opinion as them being negative when they are pointing out facts. These are facts dude. Facts of Life. You need water and food and sleep to live. If you stop eating, you will die. If you stop drinking water, you will die. If you stop sleeping, you will die. You will probably call me negative for posting these facts. I have no idea why your mind works like this. Again that's not my problem.

That's all I'm doing is posting different opinions people have. Hell, I don't even have a switch 2 game yet because it was definitely slim pickings for brand new games. Mario Kart world is definitely dividing players and I'm a huge Mario Kart fan so I'll wait for a used cartridge and see how I like it. You know what game I'm playing right now on my Nintendo switch 2? Resident evil 5. I've also gone through and checked out the upgrades on games like tears of the Kingdom, breath of the wild, Mario Odyssey, 3D World, new Super Mario Bros, f-zero GX etc. I'm playing old games on this $450 overpriced system and yes again, if it costs Nintendo only $338 to make, it's overpriced. Their accessories are also overpriced. Again, you probably think I'm being negative when I'm just stating a fact.
 

jman1115

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Rumors have the system costing $338 USD for Nintendo to make. That means it's absolutely overpriced. Nintendo was making about $38 or so on each switch one sold. They are blowing that profit out of the water now with their new system. I do still maintain that it's overpriced and it won't sell nearly as well as switch one without a price drop. Show me one post where I told people they were wrong for being hyped about switch 2? I'll save you time because I never posted that.

Also, again, your definition of negative is simply me pointing out other people's opinions. You were sitting there acting like every single person was praising the Nintendo switch 2 and it was the greatest thing ever made and I simply showed you that you were wrong and that plenty of other people had different opinions. For some reason, you are calling someone else's opinion as them being negative when they are pointing out facts. These are facts dude. Facts of Life. You need water and food and sleep to live. If you stop eating, you will die. If you stop drinking water, you will die. If you stop drinking, you will die. You will probably call me negative for posting these facts. I have no idea why your mind works like this. Again that's not my problem.

That's all I'm doing is posting different opinions people have. Hell, I don't even have a switch 2 game yet because it was definitely slim pickings for brand new games. Mario Kart world is definitely dividing players and I'm a huge Mario Kart fan so I'll wait for a used cartridge and see how I like it. You know a game I'm playing right now on my Nintendo switch 2? Resident evil 5. I've also gone through and checked out the upgrades on games like tears of the Kingdom, breath of the wild, Mario Odyssey, 3D World, new Super Mario Bros, f-zero GX etc. I'm playing old games on this $450 overpriced system and yes again, if it costs Nintendo only $338 to make, it's overpriced. Their accessories are also overpriced. Again, you probably think I'm being negative when I'm just dating a fact.

I at no point acted like it was the greatest thing ever made. You just clearly wanted to "prove people wrong" about their opinions on the Switch 2. As you are doing right now. You were not the objective, fact based guy you make yourself out to be. Also, just because something is a fact, doesn't mean you aren't being a negative person. If I walk up to a fat person every day and tell everyone they are fat, at some point it becomes obnoxious and negative. Same if I am talking about myself. Or if I am doom and glooming the end of the world and talking about politics all day. If all I talk about is how corrupt our government is, people won't want to talk to me because I never say anything positive and I am always acting like its the end of the world regardless of whether I am stating facts. Facts aren't excluded from the idea of someone being negative. Being negative is someone's propensity to always or mostly focus on the negative aspects of life.

Again, its about balance. If I get on these boards and ONLY talk negatively about Nintendo at all times, facts or not, people are going to get annoyed with me. You were doing that for a while and as I said, not as much now. But for a while, it was constant.