Cyberwar Issues Likely to Be Addressed Only After a Catastrophe

Instead of idle talking, could the politicos, admirals and generals just hit the school bench and educate themselves towards technological and procedural/social solutions ?

They are like admirals who §hit in their trousers when the submarine is invented instead of talking to engineers and scientists about countermeasures like acoustic and magnetic detection devices. Apparently the current generation of “leaders” is just an assortment of dimwits who only excel at cocktail parties.

If there is one curious man left who is not a pussy, start here:
NSA (yes, National Security Agency) SE Linux
Novell AppArmor
Cyclone programming language
Formal Verification
Proof Carrying Code.

Anide, Cyberwar as you rename it needs knowledge which you dont have.
You are just signing with few inc. lines a document which can be usefull to collect mind-liked creatures in larger masses. Stupidity often collect itself as gathered, its only a piece of paper, suits and stands with few corporated included few ikn lines whit nothing to be mattered or concerned to it. Its called politics, and clock just ticks away, right Dr.Watson says meat lover, but its tasty, even with an onion soup.
Snails and daggers, snails and dagger, humanity and humility.

Anide, Cyberwar as you rename it needs knowledge which you dont have.
You are just signing with few inc. lines a document which can be usefull to collect mind-liked creatures in larger masses. Stupidity often collect itself as gathered, its only a piece of paper, suits and stands with few corporated included few ikn lines whit nothing to be mattered or concerned to it. Its called politics, and clock just ticks away, right Dr.Watson says meat lover, but its tasty, even with an onion soup.
Snails and daggers, snails and dagger, humanity and humility.

Stuxnet, he said, had to be considered in the same light we would view Israel’s evident bombing of a suspected nuclear facility in Syria in 2007.

“If one is war, the other one is,” he said. “And if one isn’t, the other one isn’t.” ……

Did you ever hear such errant nonsense/absolute crap, trying to relate and justify a similarity between a virtual disruptive event and a kinetic destructive attack, with one capable of directly taking life with no further action taken and the other one only indirectly so enabled and only if further acted upon, if the virtual event is so designed and targeted to do.

That was a most idiotic thing to say, James Lewis, director and senior fellow of the technology and public policy program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, but i would defend your right to say it and continue drawing your thirty pieces of silver for saying it, too.

When it comes to developing cyberwarfare policy, the U.S. will likely wait for a catastrophic event and then overreact, rather than plan ahead, said former intelligence chief Mike McConnell at the RSA Conference on Wednesday.

That suggest a catastrophic lack in national intelligence to promote peace in the information space, which we can speculate on as being as a direct result of being totally dependent upon the military industrial complex and fiat money machines to survive. A situation which you were warned about, many moons ago, by your own POTUS [January 17, 1961] ……. ” A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

and is gravely to be regarded. ”

It appears that you fallen foul and/or dived headlong into your very own honey traps, and just as the insect in the pitcher plant, are now being reduced to fodder to feed the services of others beyond your control, and all for the want of foreign intelligence freely available, but of a different hue and cry, which would not support the follies of shock and awe by short-sighted men of perverse and subversive and selfish destructive stature.

And methinks you still haven’t come anywhere near to understanding either the nature or the magnitude of the changes which have already been wrought, and which effect humanity and societies and that which is collectively classified civilisation, by virtue of beings internetworking virtually inside Systems and IntelAIgent and Intelligent Communities, which can also be the SMARTer Intelligence Communities with leading agencies too.

What? The US government has NEVER “wait(ed) for a catastrophic event and then overreact(ed)”. What is this guy talking about? They always, in their infinite wisdom and benevolence that justifies their violent existence, draft the best plans for all of us to follow in any given situation. I mean, look how well they handled 9/11!

You people should have your website shut down and replaced with a banner alleging you trafficked child porn without due process, and you all should be locked in an off-shore cage for an indefinite time without any charges pressed against you while the state seizes all your assets and sells them to buy more ludicrous weaponry to fight a war on a harmless plant and ignoring the massive debt which they will just pay off by selling bonds to themselves, essentially creating money out of thin air.

Problem solved.

Sounds about par for the course given the place is ran by contractors with no interest other than a paycheck.

At the end of the day, the United States can engineer-bribe/back-door/spearphish/sabotage other countries and their technology infrastructures 100 times worse than they can do to us. I think that’s the real reason we don’t create comprehensive defensive capabilities and treaties — because then we’d be forced to put down our weapons.

I’m a little disappointed in your failure to work in the words ‘Pearl Harbor’ into your response~

I’m a little disappointed in your failure to work in the words ‘Pearl Harbor’ into your response~

For more information on this technique of waiting until it is too late, then overreacting, see “9/11″.

More fear mongering from career bureaucrats desperate to exploit the superstition du jour and shake down Congress and the citizenry. The US Government can’t even secure it’s own infrastructure, much less the more qualified, more motivated, harder working, and tougher private sector.

More fear mongering from career bureaucrats desperate to exploit the superstition du jour and shake down Congress and the citizenry. The US Government can’t even secure it’s own infrastructure, much less the more qualified, more motivated, harder working, and tougher private sector.

More fear mongering from career bureaucrats desperate to exploit the superstition du jour and shake down Congress and the citizenry. The US Government can’t even secure it’s own infrastructure, much less the more qualified, more motivated, harder working, and tougher private sector.

Hardly; the contractors tend to be stooges hemmed in by the Statements of Work written by the career bureaucrats. At least, in many cases, the contractors do understand the technicals better than the bureaucrats. Of course, you do make a very good point in the sense that the USG really doesn’t do anything – the work is all done by the “usual suspect” contractors. The USG just attempts to take the credit. It’s a bit of a sham actually.

Hardly; the contractors tend to be stooges hemmed in by the Statements of Work written by the career bureaucrats. At least, in many cases, the contractors do understand the technicals better than the bureaucrats. Of course, you do make a very good point in the sense that the USG really doesn’t do anything – the work is all done by the “usual suspect” contractors. The USG just attempts to take the credit. It’s a bit of a sham actually.

I have to admit all this vague talk made me suspect exactly this.

Don’t let your prejudice be disturbed by the excellent work of NSA. It would not do good to your teabagger mindset.

You’re asking people in Congress, who can barely work their laptop or operate their Blackberry to make decisions about technology that they cannot even get their head around. I don’t ask my mechanic about things my dentist should be telling me about my teeth.

You’re asking people in Congress, who can barely work their laptop or operate their Blackberry to make decisions about technology that they cannot even get their head around. I don’t ask my mechanic about things my dentist should be telling me about my teeth.

Excellent work doing what? Spreading democracy in Afghanistan? Or perhaps you were referring to their “excellent work” defending the USG’s information infrastructure?

Collectivism, in all its forms, is a moral and intellectual fraud.

Please check

A) what NSA has achieved in their efforts to “securely execute untrusted code”

B) what private companies like Symantec do in their “virus scanner” business

Admittedly, there are now also private companies doing things like A) but NSA has been pioneering this field. Whether they need to be as big and intrusive in their snooping business as they currently are, I am not so sure.

Also, did you stop using dollar bills ? It is “Collectivism” to agree on a common form of money, as it can be manipulated both by government and (apparently much more dangerous), private banking operations (including contraptions such as AIG).

I’ll hint you that all forms of extremism are normally unhealthy. Including blindly condemning any form of collective system. And the opposite of that.

Americans don’t know anything about cyberwarfare anyway

Of course the US will wait till some major problem occurs, then overreact. That’s all the US government is good at.

I’ve lost count of how many examples there have been in recent years of local, state and federal agencies not doing their job and overlooking obvious issues until it becomes to big to ignore or the media makes a big deal out of it. Then they made stupid policy changes and laws that either do nothing or make the problem worse just so these idiots in charge can appear to be doing something.

9/11, Hurricane Katrina, the sub-prime mortgage crisis just to name a few.