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You can add Yahoo to that list as well. I was using Yahoo mail, music, briefcase, messenger, chat, daily 'only' like ~15 years ago!


I hope the servers keep running for the next few days, I won't get a chance to pull the updates until the weekend :/

On another note, not sure why some people are complaining about the price. I own a Cozmo and Vector, both seemed fairly priced to me.


That may be a part of it, but OP is right that after the initial years FB changed and not for good. It's kinda like how I remember loving watching videos on MTV as a kid in early 90s, but by late 90s their programming had changed and it simply sucked.


where do you live? I'm in the Bay Area and have never seen any drones flying overhead! I'm myself a drone enthusiast, and I take great care not to make anyone feel uncomfortable (at least not intentionally) when I'm flying a drone


I live in norcal (sacramento) and spend a lot of time outdoors here, in the bay area, and near Tahoe and we see them consistently nearly every time were out, even when we're paddling on the water.


Phoenix area here - drone nuisance an occasional but non-negligible problem here too. Sometimes they're a minor annoyance [e.g., 4th of July fireworks viewing], and sometimes genuinely creepy [hovering over backyards in my neighborhood, sometimes at night]

I observe that the majority of drone owners use them with a mind to avoid making others ill-at-ease, but y'know, tragedy of the commons and all that


Not really tragedy of the commons.


If the resource is peace and privacy then "tragedy of the commons" seems like a reasonable metaphor.

Can you post in a little more detail as just prefixing the bit you disagree with with "not" isn't terribly useful.


If resource was peace and privacy (those aren't resources), and they were zero-sum, then it'd arguably be tragedy of the commons.

People being dicks and drawing unwanted regulatory attention towards themselves and other people ... is just people being dicks.

I appreciate that 'tragedy of the commons' is a very hip phrasing these days, but its usefulness benefits from not being misused.


"Resource" (Merriam-Webster), definition 1c: "a natural feature or phenomenon that enhances the quality of human life".

I would say silence does indeed meet this definition.


> If resource was peace and privacy (those aren't resources), and they were zero-sum

Not to say I agree with your dubious attempt at bringing 'silence' into the fold of 'resource'.

When you start mining silence by the barrel from deep space, then we can start treating it as a commodity resource.


A resource can be locally limited despite being globally (or universally) unlimited. Energy for example (to a certain degree)

Also I'm not sure "zero sum" is the same thing as "limited". The former imposes stricter requirements.

I'm sticking to my guns on this one.


I can't consume all the available quiet and therefore prevent you from having any.


You can consume all the quiet in specific area at a specific time. If that's not a limited resource then nothing is.


> You can consume all the quiet in specific area at a specific time. If that's not a limited resource then nothing is.

a) I don't know how you'd measure 'all the quiet' to determine that I'd consumed all there was.

b) even if I did, it doesn't prevent you from consuming as much (up to all) of 'the quiet' as you wanted, too.

Which brings us back to why it's not a tragedy of the commons, and why the analogy doesn't work either.


This could be a bug that you encountered. I've ordered tens of thousands dollar worth of food through their app or website in the last 3 years, often each order is $50-$200 (everyday lunch for our startup). Although, now I only use the 'group order' feature ever since they introduced it, before that it was more like 'passing the phone around' as you mentioned.


I did try different payment methods to no avail. I didn’t know they have a group order feature, that’s actually makes trying it out again tempting.


It does look like it just sits there static. I actually saw this robot/bike at CES earlier this month (just the showcase, I didn't see it in action). The robot looked like a 'dummy'. As if there's no real practical purpose of the robot being there! They might have as well just fitted all the sensors on the bike itself, but that probably won't be good for PR.


> "instead of admitting that their product adds no value to anything": I actually think that their 'airblade' (pictured in the article) is a very innovative product. When I first used it like ~10 years ago, I remember telling myself "Wow! Finally someone figured out how to make a useful hand dryer". The old style hand-dryers just took too long to dry hands, bit too long for my patience.


Have you ever tried their variation with the hand-dryer built into the sink faucet?

My experience: whatever fluids that were in the sink (soap scum/mine or other people's dirty water) flying into my face after being hit with Dyson-powered wind, me immediately jumping a foot back. Made me wonder how did they ever test this product before release.

This contraption: https://www.dyson.com/hand-dryers/dyson-airblade-tap-overvie...


considering the number of people who flush a toilet at work before using it I was just accepting of the fact they didn't mind a face full of germs.

When my work center switched to paper there was a brief period of people complaining about too much paper. the sad part was them, it was the lazy people who would just drop their used paper on the floors between the doors. Our restrooms have a vestibule, about four feet in depth, with doors on both ends. Building services had to add a trash can there. Anyone else run into behavior like that? To explain further, people used the paper from drying their hands to open the doors


Yes, I used one once... and never again, just try to locate the water sensor without accidentally triggering the explode the fucking sink all over your face bomb. I think dyson is so obsessed with trying to make use of fast moving air that they can't see it's a bad idea in an environment with bacteria laden water sitting on surfaces.


>I think dyson is so obsessed with trying to make money by selling frivolous luxury items that they can't see it's a bad idea in an environment with bacteria laden water sitting on surfaces.

FTFY.


Additionally, it's just unpleasant to use, even if it's not obvious enough to you that having dirty water blown all over you in a public toilet is extremely unhygienic... it's just goddamn unpleasant, I suppose it's users aren't it's customers, so who the hell is buying these things?


I wonder if it's related to the sink over which it's installed? The taps have always worked well in my experience.


All dryers should be banned, Dyson or not.

It don't like to be blown in the face with poop smelling stale air that any idiot can figure out would stir up more junk than possibly could be healthy, plus the hands feels jucky afterwards.


Why don't you simply just don't use them ?


It's not enough for you not to use them. Virus laden people need not to use them also.


The first time I used an airblade dryer I thought, "wow, my hands are still wet!"


Maybe I just have big hands or I'm uncoordinated, but I've never been able to use one of these things without touching the inside at the top at least once. The last thing I want to be doing is touching a probably filthy surface after washing my hands.


Yeah me too.

Then I learned how to use one.

(Which of course is a UX issue, they shouldn't need training)


There's a tiny sticker on the dryer that shows how to move your hands up and down through the curtain of air. I think over time, the sticker just fades away or something. But with all things UX, once you know exactly how to use, you never look at the 'instructions' again


I think that's often down to the technique you use to dry your hands. Used properly, it can do a decent job.

That said, I think the original design wasn't too amazing, though it did look cooler than most of the existing dryers at the time. I vastly prefer the newer design (https://www.prodryers.com/Dyson-Airblade-V-Hand-Dryer-HU02-S...) which I think does a better job. And it's certainly harder to touch the sides which is a problem a lot of people have with the original.


My noise sensitive daughter used to break into tears just looking at them.

However, they are responsible for one of the best memes ever:

https://i.imgur.com/XOjT5px.jpg


I would much rather dry my hands on my shirt or wave them around.


I always could hear them from the dining room of restaurants even with the bathroom door closed. That's what I always am reminded of when I think of / see them.


In my experience it can't even dry your hands unless you wait several minutes. A very thin film of water always remains on my hands.


Lol. Same here, I stopped reading after a while as it was pissing me off. How can someone be so dumb and explain it in excruciating detail. You brought up good points, there's a ton more. For ex. $3000 spent on lawyer to register a company, who later told him he could do it online for a couple hundred! This kind of information is just a few Google searches away these days.


did you check this out? https://www.ycombinator.com/video/


Nope - thanks! I'll check these out.


It does look pretty low if you assume that you only need 1.25x the salary in SF vs London to maintain the same standard of living [1],[2].

I worked in EU (Belgium) for 7 years before moving to the Bay Area. In my personal experience (so it cannot be generalized!), I definitely felt that CS folks are highly undervalued in EU. The starting salary for a CS grad (or equivalent by experience) was no more than 1.5x that of say a bartender who never went for higher education. Over time the more "competitive" people did complain about being paid way too less. And companies offered no significant distinction / appreciation for being a great engineer vs an average. On the whole though, most people seemed pretty content. I guess coz you are getting a pretty good deal unless you are a good software engineer :)

[1] http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?coun... [2] https://angel.co/salaries


I've lived in the UK for about 10 years now and though I'm not sure I read or picked up this idea, it has felt "true" in a truthy sort of way - the UK, culturally, regards software engineers or those similar to be little more than educated manual labor. You're not in management, so you're labor. It's a result of the significance of "class" here in the UK and the different ways to define that. And "middle class" here is roughly the equivalent of "upper middle class" in America and IT folks don't make enough to be in the "middle class".

"Lions ruled by donkeys" - this saying about British society is still true today and has its roots in the class divisions and structure. I have heard it said many times by now that Britain is still fundamentally a feudal society, certainly on the psychological level. (And I can see it) So that is going to certainly influence what management pays labor...

It has made me very appreciative of the strengths of American culture/society, though there are lots of things to complain about America as well.


I think you're right, and it's something I've only started to realise very recently having lived in the UK my whole life (a culture is hard to understand when you've only ever experienced the world from inside it).


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